| Author | 4th Team Blindfold Tournament Plus |
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True to the tradition of the Empire has always been far from the last place. But sometimes even the most die-hard conservatives are beginning to feel the thirst for something more ... outlandish, full of alien barbarity and treachery. And from time to time, the vagaries of the crowd still need to perform. Perhaps this was the root cause of the return TreTomnogo tournament in the walls of the imperial arena after many years. And maybe, three old friends and rivals just decided to come together again and remember the past. Yes, so remember that the whole empire only talking about it, enjoying the endless abundance of spectacular battles.
Heroes today in the walls of the tournament arena held a welcome return TreTomnogo tournament - competition, unprecedented in the lands of the Empire for many years. All this time the opponents are not lost in vain - and now with new strength and experience thrown another challenge. It may take one brave third combat level and above that dares to fight by the rules of "every man for himself" at six , where each of the three sides are exposed on two characters, but only one wins! At the same characteristics of all participants hidden properties of "dark scene" . As before, the best of the best in the appendage to the glasses guild policy makers will be able to share the prize fund of the tournament and earn unique achievements!
Attention! This new format of the tournament, in which there is no limit on the number of lesions, and the achievement will get every hero! Bronze award can receive any hero who receives at least 80 points, regardless of the number of fights. Rules of awarding:
- 20 fights and no less than 90 points
- 20 fights and no less than 85 points
- 80 points for any number of battles
Moreover, in 30, 50 and 70 points scored will be awarded a special elixir :
30 points
50 points
60 points
Elixirs effect does not apply to fighting in tournaments, guild tacticians, the tournament for survival and text quests. Elixirs need to use up to 1 July 2017.
Success in the tournament!
Link to check out the elixrs:
http://www.heroeswm.ru/forum_messages.php?tid=2561161 |
Sorry for making another thread btw, wanted to make the title clear.
So back to my rant, it doesn't seem like they are making any changes to nerf certain factions, which they badly need to do.
https://www.lordswm.com/tournaments_hist.php?tour=211&tid=2845
The best(and luckiest) elves would have a hard time beating an average tribal at this. |
Whats it with the 3 teams that you can see on the tournie page?
Lords of the Empire 0
Alec's brigades 0
Rayzar's squad 0
Is it that each clan is grouped into one of these, or is the implication that all of us will be Lords of the Empire, but AI characters may fill up the numbers? |
tribal, shadow barb, UN
ez win for them. especially the first one who has access to both rapid and delay plus ATB changing hero ability |
all of us will be Lords of the Empire, but AI characters may fill up the numbers?
As far as I remember, there will be 6 players. 2 from each group, so there will be one more human, but you won't know who is human. However I am assuming it'll be easy to figure out.
Also I'm wonder, the four AI's who are pretending to be players, would they purposely take more time to move to not give away who the other human is? In that case these battles will be insanely long :(
tribal, shadow barb, UN
ez win for them. especially the first one who has access to both rapid and delay plus ATB changing hero ability
Problem is not the holy/dark spells, but problem is that they can have shamans keep getting stronger and stronger and get to spirit 3. Rest of troops would also have a high spirit level soon enough. They will be totally untouchable.
Elves would probably die immediately, not interested in participating unless they make some nerfs. Otherwise it's just like being a sacrificial pawn for tribals... |
| Clearly there is a major imbalance between factions, though did you see how the results went in CL 16 or 17. Elves featured at the top of those rankings, in comparison some other factions were significantly more adrift, so I think perhaps elves are not necessarily the ones getting the worst deal. |
Elves would probably die immediately, not interested in participating unless they make some nerfs. Otherwise it's just like being a sacrificial pawn for tribals...
Somehow in last tourney there were 2 elves before any tribals on CL16 ;)
https://www.lordswm.com/tournaments_hist.php?tour=211&tid=2846
No idea how they did that though. (and ok to be fair tribal and dark barb still dominate the top positions)
Aside from that, if the human players figure out who they are and team up, they still have to finish each other off at the end? |
| I think a bit of Dominion of Fire may be interesting on this. Psychological effect, attack me and I will reduce your armour by half and watch as everyone gangs up on your biggest stacks. How any AI will factor that in I do not know - allegiance switching and all that is an important aspect with human players, AI will naturally just go with the highest immediate threat irrespective of where it comes from. |
Interesting that elves did not too bad in CL 16.
But I have two problems with that.
1) At lev 16 everyone has tree upgrade, at lev 15, at least I don't, so I don't think the lev 16 results will apply to ppl like me.
2) Back in those days elves clearly dominated in terms of population distribution. It's not too surprising that a few very skilled elves got lucky and ended up ranking that high. On the other hand, look at the concentration of tribals and shadow barbs even on the cl 16 results, both factions combined would have made up for half the total population of elves back then, so the bias is very clear.
Another thing to note is that the entire reason that this tournament was stopped for I think years now was because of this insane faction distribution. If they brought it back after so long I was hoping they had some plans to balance this. Well the tourney hasn't yet started so I'm still hoping that they make some changes to make it fair.
And also note that I'm talking about elves because I'm an elf. However elf might not the worst faction at this. My point is factions other than tribals and shadow barbs are at a clear and significant disadvantage. |
i was looking at the result of the last tournament and at CL 10, there is not even one elf in the top 200 out of around 900. i was able to see many knight around the top too.
So, as someone who main elf, i will probably have a hard time just participating in this tournament even more when my guilds aren't really developped.
and when i think about it, we'll probably see a lot of TDE in the ranking |
https://www.lordswm.com/art_info.php?id=potion1
https://www.lordswm.com/art_info.php?id=potion2
https://www.lordswm.com/art_info.php?id=potion3 |
| The AI setups and builds seem very interesting |
First game... i expected to get a lot of exp/fsp , but definitely not that much
gains 58599 exp, 1.5 commander points, 5 scores and 28.99 skill points (2022). |
| Jesus that's a lot of xp |
| Lots of everything and a ratio that is not to be sneered at. So the question then is, how long did that take you? 20 battles if they are slow is a lot. 80 points should be doable in 20 battles if lords do not take each other out. This is coming second 20 times with no first places, win a few, come third in a few and you make your 80 average. |
| Are there only 2 players in each game or the names of players not in your team are hidden in the combat log? |
To Pankaj
Yes in every battle there are only 2 real players and 4 bots. All names are hidden till the end of combat. There are 3 teams Lords, Alec's, Ryazar's. So the battle has 2 of each team. In the end of combat winner adds 5 points, 2nd 4 and so on till looser doesn't bring points |
| That wayverdnes or how its called. Can get you in trouble |
| skyshaman is the imbalance unit in this kind of battle, its like having DE with empowered chain lightning but with infinite amount of mana and more faster cast. plus ai have low priority on them. |
Ah, I remember playing this tourny now..It's been years, tho..
I remember we used to do things to indicate that we're the actual player
Since then new AI has been implemented so maybe the old methods are moot.. |
