| Author | Well, how would you make money if you were LoWM? |
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The only missing feature missing IMHO is to be able to trade Diamonds on the market, like any other resource.
It would rise the value of Diamonds to more than 2500 gold, for sure. But currently Diamond to gold conversion is the weakest use you can do with Diamonds. It brings too little money to be really worth it
If Diamonds could be traded, it would bring more gold to Diamond sellers and allow people to get Diamonds effects without donating. Since each traded Diamonds would have to be acquired through donation in the first place, it could not decrease the number of Diamonds overall.
I'd acquire diamonds just to sell them under these conditions. Win-win, but just in my humble opinion. |
If Diamonds could be traded, it would bring more gold to Diamond sellers and allow people to get Diamonds effects without donating. Since each traded Diamonds would have to be acquired through donation in the first place, it could not decrease the number of Diamonds overall.
I'd acquire diamonds just to sell them under these conditions. Win-win, but just in my humble opinion.
its more of a win for the person selling. i play another online game that allows you to sell your 'prize for donating'. in the last 12 months the price for one has more than tripled. if you think people complaining about lack of/ or high price of mercury, wait until diamonds are sold it would be even worse. i think it's fine the way it is. the way it is now, it is less likely to result in fraud. you can't send diamonds to anybody so they are tied to your account. but if you can trade them to others it wouldn't be long before you start hearing about people buying diamonds with stolen IDs and selling them to a multi to try to create plausible deniability to the end user. 'i didn't know the diamonds were bought with stolen money i just bought them from some guy' and that would be a nightmare for the admin.
maybe that's a little far-fetched, but it has happened in other online games, and can't be ruled out of the realm of possibilty. |
| no way your ideas sux |
| paying for a complete regen in 5 minutes in place of 15 minutes (available for 15-30 days) |
I think Mr. Urgone just wanted to say that the LOWM now lack of money .. I mean look at our lag server, needs money to upgrade it .. And some upgrade that promised by Admins but never realized till now .. like Dwarvens factions, etc. .. Needs money too, to develop this game .. ^^
Best regards,
Randhy |
| Randhy, i love you! you keep me amused anytime i read some of your creative works :} should write a book, man! |
its more of a win for the person selling. i play another online game that allows you to sell your 'prize for donating'. in the last 12 months the price for one has more than tripled.
You are right on all accounts - but I fail to see any problem here.
Imagine that instead of an exchange rate engraved in stone, Diamonds can be sold on the market, henceforth the players, and not the admins, set their price.
Of course, Diamond price will rise. Say, 10K per diamond. So what? Many people hesitating to donate will jump on the bandwagon to make gold from diamonds.
I have no server stats but I'm quite sure that, say, 80% of diamonds are spent to purchase early upgrades. One must be really desperate for gold to spend them as diamonds, because the exchange rate is way too low. Selling and buying them would solve this and set the right value for this resource. And it would give an opportunity for people unable to donate (because they are too young, for example) to get diamond benefits through patience, and the market. |
| I gotta go with Kotrin's idea. Just hadn't occurred to me. |
for Shebali:
I agree with you completey
The admins have odne such a fine job with this game / community now. That people are willing to donate here and there.
This server will one day most probally become bigger than the .RU server because this is worldwide. The .RU server is in russian which puts alot of people off, where as english is a worldwide language. |
I like this game and agree that it's need money to run.
But the idea to give something special advantage only to donating player will ruin the game.
The idea of buy/sell diamond is great and I think it would work.
Just look to other game that have more than 10000 player online and you will know the solution. [I think it prohibit to say the name of other game here]
Idea that work but not ruin the game such as
- Diamond upgrade to make life easier NOT advantage [Like some large football manager game online]
Example in this game such as auto alarm when job [labor] is done. Ability to make group war more specifically [AP limiting, Race limiting]
OR Add ads and diamond upgrade can stop it = load faster
- Diamond upgrade to make game look better NOT advantage
Example such as nice graphic, more customizable profile, customizable page looking or skin.
- Diamond can buy/sell [Like many other game]
* This way can eliminate advantage if diamond can upgrade to give advantage as any player can buy it buy gold BUT quite high price.
** But this will advantage to high level player [esp in labor guild] as they can make money than lower level.
*** This would work early BUT in long run the game need many mechanic to keep the price not too high [Gold float] as this will give too much advantage to donater. But I think this game will work as AP system is a great gold sink mechanic.
- Diamond upgrade give advantage
This way ruin the game if no buy/sell system also use.
But for example
+ 100 diamond upgrade to heal faster for 1 minute max at 10 minute upgrade.
+ 1 diamond upgrade to add more profile text
+ 50 diamond upgrade to travel faster for 10 second max at 30 second.
or Clan tax can be set only if diamond upgrade it / Max number of clan member.
Please remember that when buy/sell upgrade available the game experience will change forever. |
| I don't know if this is being implemented, but some other games have a "pay-by-partner" program, basically another website puts up offers that when a user completes a survey or a subscription to a daily games/news/weather newsletter, it credits a certain amount of money to the game owners, and there should be a ticker-count for each player, so when they get enough money credited to LoWM, they can exchange them for cash, or more enticing, diamonds. now don't stop here, the diamonds earned here won't be credited on a 1:1 basis, instead they should be more like "3 euro in partner income:1 diamond" kind of thing |
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Even though i am quite new to this game, i like the idea. As i play wizard and with the new rule blah blah gold is an issue. I have played 1 game which used this idea and it turned out great. Adding ads wouldn't be advisable though as this game is real time. |
at the moment diamond payer already have great advantages:
- they can buy a thief invitation (which is worth much more Gold than everything else i think)
- they can build good buildings earlier and get a lot of advantages: They can do Thiefing/Mercenary-Quests earlier (resulting in better Stats compared to others), they get money by not spending it to build the building later, they have less problems at hunt and can level up easier and last but not least they smash nearly every enemy at PvsP
- they can do some other things like better hunters license or something like that (which is not worth that much imo)
What can I do? I don't have the money to pay (really!) so my chance to support the game is to don't ruin the advantages of those who pay. That means i will join a Group Duel where an enemy has Crossbowmen being level 5. Look at it as a challenge, you may lose nearly everytime BUT you gave the enemy (and the other player) the impression that the money is spend well on diamonds. If those who pay are wimps is another thing (you don't have to point THAT out) but this way you help the diamonds being worth buying so you support the game.
That includes thiefing - if you get thiefed by a diamond-buyer give him a good fight (as if someone wouldn't try his best... well there may be guys out there hiding behind the time just trying to annoy the attacker...), you may definately lose but you support the game.
Spit on those 100-200 Gold you may lose by artifacts
That's the way i think the community can support the game (if you don't want to buy diamonds yourself)
it doesn't need new upgrades, the old ones are strong but fair enough |
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That means i will join a Group Duel where an enemy has Crossbowmen being level 5
I would never do that, the guy is a cheater;)
But I agree with your point: donaters already have advantages that non-donaters do not have access to (early unit upgrades) and I don't find this very different from suggestion 6 in the first post, which a lot have opposed in this thread. I would prefer that this is changed.
This would of course require another source of income. Ads are fine with me as long as they are "non-invasive" (e.g. banners), but also the possibility to unlock extra features that do not gain any game advantage or speeding the game process up is okay IMO. |
34,
OMG.. this statement again :((
Diamond players are cheaters? Why don't you asked Admin to decide if they are cheaters or not?
Let me tell you (and those who called diamond players are cheaters) something.
Nothing in this world is FREE. If you can get something for free.. that is because someone else has paid for it.
eg: You can have a FREE internet connection (hot spot) in public area like university or mall. But that's because they already paid for you. You can have a free education, because your government paid for you... etc.
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And you can play this game for free, because the diamond players paid for YOU.
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What do you call someone, who is getting something for free... but calling those who actually gives him the one he likes are cheaters?
Grow up please... |
Grow up please...
Nice one you got here h4nd. lol
I sometimes hate to see that i'm fighting a diamond player, but i think as the day is just not my day. u want to win against diamond players? try ambush them with Elf. i won several times. lol. |
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Ahem, the point is that you cannot do the diamond-upgrade before level 6, so clearly the guy is a cheater if he has it at level 5... Try to count to ten next time you want to write something like the above;) |
| buying recruiting health would be nice |
37,
And you better read before make a comment. You reply to #33, Read the first statement. He is talking about diamond player. And I am quite sure he didn't mean cross bowmen at level 5.
Read again #35.
Let me tell you (and those who called diamond players are cheaters) something.
I am saying this not only to you, but to those who called diamond players are cheaters. |
for Georgia: BTW, I am a writer .. many stories to written ..
But honestly diamonds players are not cheaters .. they just use the facilities given by the admins .. nothings to argue about, just let us have fun and play here ..
GBU all my men .. ^^ ! |
