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AuthorWhich one is better for GB at level 10+, Barb or Demon?
^^ for SpecialOne: Put your money on demons if you like it, simple :)
>>> With full (enchanted) arts, demons can also give some advantages at TG to build faction level but barb heroes can do area GB damage.
With full (enchanted) arts, demons can also give some advantages at TG
that's really costly... i did that on early 11
on the other hand, DE able to manage 80% win on TG just using normal arts
On 10th level:
Demon- depending of skill points more than barb, you must think about tactics always in all kind of battles.
Barb- just take them and slash'n'smash!!

P.S. demons with skill points 7+ are better on 10th lvl.
Actually this faction level bother me.
Faction level affect Demon much more than Barb.

My ally in GB will be upset when they see my units gate only 20% :)
I have seen how other heroes get upset when they saw his/her ally only have 100 skeletal bowmen in level 10 GB.
I think it need at least it need faction level 5 to make competitive battle with other heroes with faction level 7.

Playing PvE first until I reach demon faction level 5 before play GB? For me, it's a torture. :(
Playing PvE first until I reach demon faction level 5 before play GB? For me, it's a torture. :(

so dont change your faction!

stay with elves
My ally in GB will be upset when they see my units gate only 20% :)
I have seen how other heroes get upset when they saw his/her ally only have 100 skeletal bowmen in level 10 GB.

then bring tactics - rush and crush them - then die, just gate with small stacks for blocking only.
bar-bar easily died by this tactic (large creatures, low space to avoiding 3 headed attacks)
Demons on 3rd place after knights and necros, who are depending of SP. If U have much time- go to demons, if not- barbs and DElves for you.
^^ It's the price, it's the big challenge, don't think too much about GB ally.
>>> It's you who walk on it and most important, even a little, enjoy it :)
Demons on 3rd place after knights and necros, who are depending of SP. If U have much time- go to demons, if not- barbs and DElves for you.


The funniest thing is I have tried Knight and Necro so I know exactly how is the pain to have low faction level in high combat level and now I want to try Demon. :)
Another variant- U go to mercenary guild to take 4th level- for U it's about 500 tasks= 260-270 skill points, and 280 points= 5th skill point lvl. But it's not GB you like:(
so dont change your faction!

stay with elves


Look at GB made by level 11-13 heroes, you will see that almost no elf involved in GB.

Your opponents will kill your GMB at 1st round, your EFK at 2nd round and then clean up the rest of your troops for the next rounds.
Ha-ha-ha. Elves' faction is to hunting and play with NPC. For groups use another faction.
This is the cost to switch faction to Demon in level 10:

Gold wood ore mercury sulfur crystal gems
Breed of Chaos 500
Infernal Kennel 800 1 1
Marketplace 500 5
Warehouse 2.000 10 5
Temptation Chamber 3.000 5 5 5 5
Mage guild 1 5.000 5 5 3 3 3 3
Blacksmith 5.000 5
Fort 20.000 20 20
Hell stables 18.000 10 10 10 10
Mage guild 2 5.000 20 20 12 12 12 12
Hall of terror 10.000
Mage guild 3 5.000 30 30 20 20 20 20
spawn cauldron 28.000
Underground depot 20.000 20 40
Diabolic bastion 45.000 20 20
Cerberi kennel 65.000 30
232.800 146 161 40 80 35 45

So it needs 232.800 gold, 146 wood, 161 ore, 40 mercury, 80 sulfur, 35 crystal, 45 gems.
If we convert all resources to gold, we need about 363.000 gold.

My money still not enough :((
U need not of: Blacksmith, all mage guilds, 1-2 lvl monsters upgrade buildings to begin for Demons.
^^ Du really need underground depot?
>>> Can exclude diabalic bastion too if want to use no incen formation.
Damn, I start my career as a Demon by being an ambush victim :)
http://lordswm.com/warlog.php?warid=481316281
Don't buy warehhouse stuff istill don't have them or magic guild past 1 for arrow and curse... If you just put everything into AT&T u don't need any aznd u don't need smith sry for grammar sentf from iPhone
Faction level affect Demon much more than Barb.
:P Unless you face a wizard.
for building faction xp I recommend doing ambushes with cheap arts (steel set+som) even losing gets you some fsp. And mercenary quests, you can always do some even with cheap arts.
Thank you, everyone, officially I am a demon now.

I already did 2 combats an I like it very much. I wish I were a demon from the beginning. :)
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