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Don't ignore the last post..
read it carefully it has the answer you seek
oh yes I also was going to emphasize my point with this
Only the keeper can conform if the player was disconnected in middle of combat and at which point.. normal players cannot simply see this when reviewing combat |
Don't ignore the last post..
Again you jump to conclusions.
I was in the process of writing my msg while you posted yours.
So in your mind I was guilty of ignoring even though I had not seen it. See how you should not jump to conclusions.
Only the keeper can conform if the player was disconnected in middle of combat and at which point.. normal players cannot simply see this when reviewing combat
Sometimes people have computer problems besides internet DC, that makes it impossible to continue combat. Flash can go down, etc etc. So even keeper cannot know for sure. Unless they can read minds, or people confess.
Again, I don't mind a rule change. But this seems to be more about revenge than justice. |
| okey think is this you guys can afk with me but i report you every single time even if it means you get blocked, so this topic is pointless becose afking against rules and you were afk. i will report unless i get apologies and gold form lost time and arts. |
From the Keepers page:
"¤ Staged combats, paid-for combats, deliberate loses, bad sportsmanship, giveaway combats.
- first infringement, 5,000 gold
- second infringement, 20,000 gold
- third infringement, 50,000 gold
- fourth infringement = character block.
There is possibility of premature block in exceptional cases."
It seems that there has been a significant increase in players getting fined under this rule-break.
I'm sure most of us have complained in the past after being victims of one of the above and nothing has been done, which was very frustrating.
Now we have at least one active keeper who is trying to clean up the server of habitual rule-breakers who annoy everyone.
On the other hand I don't see how an unintentional AFK could possibly be a "deliberate loss, bad sportsmanship or giveaway combat". If a player is consistently going afk when facing a player wearing full arts, fair enough, they deserve to be fined. But if it only happens once and there is no evidence whatsoever that the afk was intentional, i don't see how a keeper can justify a fine. |
I'm sorry if I have offended you in any way, shape or form.
now back to topic, So even keeper cannot know for sure. Unless they can read minds, or people confess.
for this you can contact the keeper who already fined that player for going afk.. and ask him how did he conclude that it was intentional
https://www.lordswm.com/forum_messages.php?tid=1904712
Again, I don't mind a rule change. But this seems to be more about revenge than justice.
The rule will stay the same unless you post at the right forum
https://www.lordswm.com/forum_thread.php?id=103
Revenge and justice can sometimes go hand in hand;) |
keeper can see is character disconnected
its connected(online) or dis-connected(offline), how can you prove its intentional?
meaningless.
ther is a chance of power cut which happens in my country often or internet problem maybe. |
| 46# if you got powercut you lose connection and you uare disconnected witch means you wont get penalty alyna was online tyre time!!! |
If a player is consistently going afk when facing a player wearing full arts, fair enough
the player went afk in many cases against full arted..just for the record |
I'm sorry if I have offended you in any way, shape or form
Not offended, just proved my point of why the need for the popular term "Innocent to proven guilty"
for this you can contact the keeper who already fined that player for going afk.. and ask him how did he conclude that it was intentional
You say they can see if its intentionally AFK, I say they cannot. I am discussing the rule. Not a specific case, like I believe Nappa does.
f you got powercut you lose connection and you uare disconnected witch means you wont get penalty alyna was online tyre time!!!
Their is still other form for problems that unintentionally while your computer remains online |
for 47:
if you close the LWM page without clicking logout, the player will stay for another 10 to 15 mins. do you know that? |
the player went afk in many cases against full arted..just for the record
wer is the record?
its not stated in the penalty ? |
for 47:
if you close the LWM page without clicking logout, the player will stay for another 10 to 15 mins. do you know that?
you know that, as in some games other players can see lvl of opponent connection there only keeper can see it not players you think they go middle of combat watch online status witch show in battle rofl. |
just proved my point of why the need for the popular term "Innocent to proven guilty"
you are wrong my friend=)
read this
In our game we do not adhere to the "Presumption of innocence" concept. In fact, quite the opposite, we have "Presumption of guilt". Any player, if accused, is considered guilty until he or she can justify him- or herself or be justified elsewise.
from Arctic's profile
https://www.lordswm.com/pl_info.php?id=4300100 |
Their is still other form for problems that unintentionally while your computer remains online
Why try to guess what her reason was for afk? If she cannot provide a reason for going afk, then a penalty should be imposed. If she has a valid reason (like comp crashed, power cut, etc), then it is debatable. But I've not seen any reason, so I think the penalty is justified. |
they never had the chance to defend themselves.
In some cases they were fined even before the connection was restored. |
Why try to guess what her reason was for afk? If she cannot provide a reason for going afk, then a penalty should be imposed. If she has a valid reason (like comp crashed, power cut, etc), then it is debatable. But I've not seen any reason, so I think the penalty is justified.
if Alyna says her computer crashed will they cancel the penalty? how can she prove that? how will keeper believe that?
i dont get it |
you are wrong my friend=)
read this
In our game we do not adhere to the "Presumption of innocence" concept. In fact, quite the opposite, we have "Presumption of guilt". Any player, if accused, is considered guilty until he or she can justify him- or herself or be justified elsewise.
from Arctic's profile
https://www.lordswm.com/pl_info.php?id=4300100
Maybe that its written their, but previous the policy has been otherwise regarding AFK. Seems arbitrary when they enforce their "hunch is enough" policy and when they require evidence.
If they start to punish people without evidence I fear that people will find other games, as people wont tolerate being wrongly accused. |
and now you break the rule:)
5.1. Administration's actions and decisions are not subject to discussion. |
If they start to punish people without evidence I fear that people will find other games, as people wont tolerate being wrongly accused.
very true:) |
| Guys, why don't we wait for Arctic top answer this. Save the effort and emotion of all this opinion-exchanging |
