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| Author | Kecil |
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Kecil
http://www.heroeswm.com/pl_transfers.php?id=4394906
09-26-08 13:27: Received 10000 Gold from SetsunaFSeiei : Thanks for your loaning on art and mineral
09-25-08 11:04: Transferred 8000 Gold to CGYH :
09-25-08 11:03: Transferred 3 Gems 2 Mercury 2 Ore 3 Wood to CGYH : Thanks for your assist
09-19-08 17:47: Received 32000 Gold from SetsunaFSeiei :
09-19-08 16:13: Received 40000 Gold from SetsunaFSeiei :
09-11-08 11:18: Transferred item(s): 'Defender shield' [40/40] to SetsunaFSeiei . Transaction price: 100 Gold
09-11-08 11:18: Transferred item(s): 'Reprisal sword' [40/40] to SetsunaFSeiei . Transaction price: 100 Gold
SetsunaFSeiei
http://www.heroeswm.com/pl_transfers.php?id=4392510
CGYH
http://www.heroeswm.com/pl_transfers.php?id=4391628
09-26-08 11:13: Transferred item(s): 'Hat of knowledge' [20/25] to SetsunaFSeiei
09-25-08 11:03: Received 3 Gems 2 Mercury 2 Ore 3 Wood from Kecil : Thanks for your assist
09-25-08 11:02: Received 1 Crystals 4 Mercury from SetsunaFSeiei : Thanks for your assist
09-25-08 06:57: Received item(s): 'Potion of oblivion' [1/1] from SetsunaFSeiei . Transaction price: 100 Gold
09-25-08 06:56: Received item(s): 'Combat staff' [6/40] from SetsunaFSeiei . Transaction price: 100 Gold
09-25-08 06:56: Received item(s): 'Cape of spirits' [25/30] from SetsunaFSeiei . Transaction price: 100 Gold
09-25-08 06:56: Received item(s): 'Wizard cap' [17/35] from SetsunaFSeiei . Transaction price: 100 Gold
09-25-08 06:53: Received item(s): 'Hat of knowledge' [20/25] from SetsunaFSeiei . Transaction price: 100 Gold
ShinMusha
http://www.heroeswm.com/pl_transfers.php?id=4397453
09-26-08 13:31: Received 10000 Gold from SetsunaFSeiei : Thanks for your Ore and gold earlier. Thanks mate
09-11-08 02:54: Transferred item(s): 'Amulet of luck' [25/25] to SetsunaFSeiei . Transaction price: 10 Gold | medium
http://www.heroeswm.com/pl_transfers.php?id=4397455
09-26-08 13:30: Transferred 15000 Gold to SetsunaFSeiei : I'll keep the art you transfer for me, this is the gold that worth your art
09-19-08 17:53: Transferred 10000 Gold to SetsunaFSeiei :
09-18-08 13:49: Received item(s): 'Hunter hat' [0/10] from SetsunaFSeiei
09-17-08 10:35: Transferred item(s): 'Combat staff' [40/40] to SetsunaFSeiei
09-17-08 10:35: Transferred item(s): 'Amulet of luck' [25/25] to SetsunaFSeiei | i dont think its a multi account they both transfer both ways
[Player banned by moderator Kush until 2008-09-27 21:02:00 // 1. If you aren't related to the application directly - don't leave your messages in it's topic. Third-party comments are allowed | | I personally think Rankine is kinda a jealousy person, as we are joining this game as a group of friend, and the log she/he display above is just a part of it, he/she didn't receive the log from the beginning, if he/she know how to use calculator, he/she can try to calculate the cost that we transfer from the beginning to the end, it is an equal, but Rankine just display part of the log and wanna show others we are multies, I think it is kind of insulting, I had personally send a private mail to Secretary and hope Secretary can help me to prevent Rankine from sending insulting mail to me in the future, as his/her annoying action is an INSULT to our team spirit. | This is the complete transfer log
09-19-08 17:57: Received 2000 Gold from SetsunaFSeiei :
09-19-08 17:54: Transferred 224 Ore to SetsunaFSeiei :
09-19-08 17:49: Received 224 Ore from SetsunaFSeiei :
09-19-08 17:48: Transferred 99 Ore to SetsunaFSeiei :
09-19-08 17:47: Received 32000 Gold from SetsunaFSeiei :
09-19-08 17:46: Transferred 124 Ore to SetsunaFSeiei :
09-19-08 16:16: Transferred 60 Ore 224 Wood to SetsunaFSeiei :
09-19-08 16:13: Received 40000 Gold from SetsunaFSeiei :
and Rankine just copy and paste part of it.
This transfer show that SetsunaFSeiei need my help to buy ore and wood in Great Capital, while he is at Silent hill, so he transfer gold to me and buy mineral, at the same time I transfer back the mineral he requested, but Setsuna need more, then he transfer more gold to me, and I also transfer the mineral he requested back to him. This is what I mentioned above, if Rankine would know how to use a calculator to calculate the cost of mineral and the gold transferred, it will be an equal at the end of the transaction. | To further clarify Kecil explanation, below is my transfer log
09-26-08 13:31: Received 10000 Gold from SetsunaFSeiei : Thanks for your Ore and gold earlier. Thanks mate
09-25-08 11:06: Transferred 6 Sulfur to CGYH : Thanks for your assist
09-25-08 07:36: Castle modified. Construction added: Avengers' guild.
09-25-08 07:34: Castle modified. Construction added: Treetop shack.
09-25-08 07:33: Faction changed: Knight to Elf.
09-25-08 03:16: Received item(s): 'Hunter hat' [10/10] from SetsunaFSeiei
09-21-08 03:29: Transferred item(s): 'Hunter hat' [10/10] to SetsunaFSeiei
09-21-08 03:29: Transferred item(s): 'Hunter shirt' [10/10] to SetsunaFSeiei
09-21-08 03:29: Transferred item(s): 'Hunter hat' [10/10] to SetsunaFSeiei
09-21-08 03:29: Transferred item(s): 'Hunter shirt' [10/10] to SetsunaFSeiei
09-20-08 17:03: Transferred item(s): 'Hat of knowledge' [25/25] to SetsunaFSeiei
09-20-08 17:02: Received 2 Crystals 2 Sulfur from SetsunaFSeiei :
09-20-08 16:05: Transferred 1 Gems to medium :
09-20-08 15:49: Transferred 1 Gems to medium :
09-19-08 17:53: Transferred 7000 Gold to SetsunaFSeiei :
09-19-08 16:18: Transferred 74 Ore to SetsunaFSeiei :
09-18-08 13:57: Transferred 1 Sulfur to Kecil :
09-18-08 13:50: Received item(s): 'Hunter shirt' [0/10] from SetsunaFSeiei
09-18-08 13:50: Received item(s): 'Hunter shirt' [0/10] from SetsunaFSeiei
09-18-08 13:50: Received item(s): 'Hunter shirt' [0/10] from SetsunaFSeiei
09-17-08 10:41: Transferred 22 Ore to SetsunaFSeiei :
09-17-08 10:36: Transferred 1 Sulfur to Kecil :
09-13-08 00:58: Castle modified. Construction added: Training chambers.
09-12-08 10:46: Transferred 2000 Gold to SetsunaFSeiei :
09-12-08 10:09: Transferred 3700 Gold to SetsunaFSeiei :
09-11-08 05:45: Transferred item(s): 'Round shield' [6/7] to SetsunaFSeiei
09-11-08 02:54: Transferred item(s): 'Amulet of luck' [25/25] to SetsunaFSeiei . Transaction price: 10 Gold
I received 10000 Gold from SetsunaFSeiei is because I loan him gold earlier on, but Rankine just posting SetsunaFSeiei transfer gold to me but not the gold SetsunaFSeiei receive gold and mineral from me. | i found some interesting battles between them.
09-22-08 15:35: SetsunaFSeiei[5] vs Kecil[3], ShinMusha[3]
http://www.heroeswm.com/warlog.php?warid=471659071
09-19-08 07:22: SetsunaFSeiei[5], CGYH[4] vs Kecil[3], ShinMusha[3], darveter[3]
http://www.heroeswm.com/warlog.php?warid=471550372
09-17-08 02:38: SetsunaFSeiei[4] vs Kecil[3]
http://www.heroeswm.com/warlog.php?warid=471485744
08-27-08 05:38: CGYH[3] vs Kecil[2]
http://www.heroeswm.com/warlog.php?warid=470826177
08-26-08 10:40: CGYH[3] vs Kecil[2]
http://www.heroeswm.com/warlog.php?warid=470800331
08-23-08 05:51: SetsunaFSeiei[3] vs Kecil[1]
http://www.heroeswm.com/warlog.php?warid=470692926
3.16. Contractual combats leading one of the parties to losing a priori is prohibited. A contractual combat supposes that one of the parties intentionally loses to the other for any reason different from having technical problems with access to the game. Instigation to losing a combat is also forbidden. | To administrator,
I'm the one who bring kecil, ShinMusha and Medium to this game, they transfer me the item as I requested and I do transfer back the gold to them within one month, I don't think this violate the rules.
As to Rankine action, I would like to know his/her motive behind the scene, she accuse us as multies, she just show partly of the transfer log and not the full set, what can she receive at then end of the day?
I think playing game alone is kinda lonely, to have some friends play together, sharing resources and helping each other will require is kind of teamspirit, as everyone can look at out labor guild, we are all reaching level 3, we earn wages is higher then Rankine.
We can spend our time working in factory to gather more gold, when we need, we use, when our friend needs, we share, when they can payback, we receive in anyway, such as used art, mineral or gold, where we can reuse or sell off.
I do hope administrator look into this matter seriously.
FYI, please refer the the website link below, accusing someone by sending a letter without a solid proof is against the law.
http://books.google.com.my/books?id=kv8uAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA579&lpg=PA579&dq=legal+law+accusing&source=web&ots=UcrMpRIh6p&sig=P10zcDNHagMes0Nk7dcvIGxGWQw&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=2&ct=result | Yea.. i don't like her either.. all she/he does is post this crap and only accuse if you calculate first.. not go like " oh they transfer big amounts! imma post on forum and rat on them!"
[Player banned by moderator Kush until 2008-09-28 01:54:32 // 1. If you aren't related to the application directly - don't leave your messages in it's topic. Third-party comments are allowed | haha..... me again.
09-23-08 12:34: SetsunaFSeiei[5] vs ShinMusha[3]
http://www.heroeswm.com/warlog.php?warid=471685235
09-19-08 06:40: SetsunaFSeiei[5] vs ShinMusha[3], mila23[3]
http://www.heroeswm.com/warlog.php?warid=471549789
09-19-08 00:57: SetsunaFSeiei[5] vs ShinMusha[3]
http://www.heroeswm.com/warlog.php?warid=471545113
09-17-08 02:56: SetsunaFSeiei[4] vs ShinMusha[3]
http://www.heroeswm.com/warlog.php?warid=471486099
09-06-08 09:31: SetsunaFSeiei[4] vs ShinMusha[2]
http://www.heroeswm.com/warlog.php?warid=471152665
08-29-08 06:40: besar[1] vs ShinMusha[1]
http://www.heroeswm.com/warlog.php?warid=470894084
08-29-08 06:31: CGYH1[1] vs ShinMusha[1]
http://www.heroeswm.com/warlog.php?warid=470893890
08-27-08 05:43: CGYH[3] vs ShinMusha[1]
http://www.heroeswm.com/warlog.php?warid=470826292
08-26-08 10:35: CGYH[3] vs ShinMusha[1]
http://www.heroeswm.com/warlog.php?warid=470800255 | 09-22-08 15:35: SetsunaFSeiei[5] vs Kecil[3], ShinMusha[3]
http://www.heroeswm.com/warlog.php?warid=471659071
09-19-08 07:22: SetsunaFSeiei[5], CGYH[4] vs Kecil[3], ShinMusha[3], darveter[3]
http://www.heroeswm.com/warlog.php?warid=471550372
09-17-08 02:38: SetsunaFSeiei[4] vs Kecil[3]
http://www.heroeswm.com/warlog.php?warid=471485744
08-27-08 05:38: CGYH[3] vs Kecil[2]
http://www.heroeswm.com/warlog.php?warid=470826177
08-26-08 10:40: CGYH[3] vs Kecil[2]
http://www.heroeswm.com/warlog.php?warid=470800331
08-23-08 05:51: SetsunaFSeiei[3] vs Kecil[1]
http://www.heroeswm.com/warlog.php?warid=470692926
For this combat log, is far more easier to explain then transfer log, as we playing the game all the while, by noticing the time we play (i mean malaysia time) it is our working hour, of cause we can't concentrate to play a game, sometime when environment not permit us to proceed the game normally, e.g we have to reduce the game into the smallest resolution and hide at the corner of the monitor, or someone walk pass by and we just simply click it and hide the window again, this might accidentally click on the wrong command or wrong placement of war.
If we really fight intentionally to lose a bettle for other party gaining experience, we will do it always, but when you investigate our combat log, once again I would like to emphasis on Rankine action, she never study detail enough to raise an accusation. How many bettle we when through, by looking at our combat log, our hunter guild is far more higher then Rankine. These hunter skill is acquire from killing creep provide by heroeswm and not in group bettle.
As we also notice that is not a nice game to fight in a group bettle while waiting other opponent to move, and in between waiting, some other factor may interrupt the game process, e.g. environment, time, etc. so in our combat mode we usually play by fighting creep provided by heroeswm. | "e.g we have to reduce the game into the smallest resolution and hide at the corner of the monitor, or someone walk pass by and we just simply click it and hide the window again, this might accidentally click on the wrong command or wrong placement of war."
nope, i dont think so. try looking into deeper, the winner side sometimes never losing a single troops, and they even make a 3x3 square for letting knight to use volley ability.
09-25-08 06:05: CGYH[5] vs SetsunaFSeiei[5]
http://www.heroeswm.com/warlog.php?warid=471733699
09-23-08 09:04: SetsunaFSeiei[5] vs CGYH[4]
http://www.heroeswm.com/warlog.php?warid=471680183
09-17-08 10:00: SetsunaFSeiei[4] vs medium[3]
http://www.heroeswm.com/warlog.php?warid=471493953
09-03-08 01:51: CGYH[4] vs SetsunaFSeiei[4]
http://www.heroeswm.com/warlog.php?warid=471051553
08-29-08 01:11: SetsunaFSeiei[4] vs CGYH[3]
http://www.heroeswm.com/warlog.php?warid=470888726
08-28-08 11:24: SetsunaFSeiei[4] vs CGYH[3]
http://www.heroeswm.com/warlog.php?warid=470867963
08-27-08 05:28: SetsunaFSeiei[4] vs CGYH[3]
http://www.heroeswm.com/warlog.php?warid=470825996
08-26-08 11:35: CGYH[3] vs SetsunaFSeiei[3]
http://www.heroeswm.com/warlog.php?warid=470801840
08-26-08 10:46: CGYH[3] vs SetsunaFSeiei[3]
http://www.heroeswm.com/warlog.php?warid=470800457
08-26-08 10:13: CGYH[3] vs SetsunaFSeiei[3]
http://www.heroeswm.com/warlog.php?warid=470799583
08-25-08 08:22: CGYH[3] vs SetsunaFSeiei[3]
http://www.heroeswm.com/warlog.php?warid=470762308
08-22-08 14:58: CGYH[3] vs SetsunaFSeiei[3]
http://www.heroeswm.com/warlog.php?warid=470674942
08-22-08 05:43: CGYH[3] vs SetsunaFSeiei[3]
http://www.heroeswm.com/warlog.php?warid=470660272
08-22-08 03:44: CGYH[3] vs SetsunaFSeiei[3]
http://www.heroeswm.com/warlog.php?warid=470658343
08-22-08 01:57: CGYH[3] vs SetsunaFSeiei[2]
http://www.heroeswm.com/warlog.php?warid=470656615
08-21-08 11:05: CGYH[2] vs SetsunaFSeiei[2]
http://www.heroeswm.com/warlog.php?warid=470635731
etc. | [8] http://books.google.com.my/books?id=kv8uAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA579&lpg=PA579&dq=legal+law+accusing&source=web&ots=UcrMpRIh6p&sig=P10zcDNHagMes0Nk7dcvIGxGWQw&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=2&ct=result
if you are that much like to play with law, you should very well know this games rule.
09-25-08 06:57: Transferred item(s): 'Potion of oblivion' [1/1] to CGYH . Transaction price: 100 Gold
09-25-08 06:56: Transferred item(s): 'Combat staff' [6/40] to CGYH . Transaction price: 100 Gold
09-25-08 06:56: Transferred item(s): 'Cape of spirits' [25/30] to CGYH . Transaction price: 100 Gold
09-25-08 06:56: Transferred item(s): 'Wizard cap' [17/35] to CGYH . Transaction price: 100 Gold
09-25-08 06:53: Transferred item(s): 'Hat of knowledge' [20/25] to CGYH . Transaction price: 100 Gold
09-11-08 11:18: Received item(s): 'Defender shield' [40/40] from Kecil . Transaction price: 100 Gold
09-11-08 11:18: Received item(s): 'Reprisal sword' [40/40] from Kecil . Transaction price: 100 Gold
09-11-08 02:54: Received item(s): 'Amulet of luck' [25/25] from ShinMusha . Transaction price: 10 Gold
http://www.heroeswm.com/help.php?section=5
"When buying game items from other characters, the prices mustn't differ too much from the average market prices."
3.13. Additional characters are not allowed to make presents to anyone, or pay/receive clan taxes/entrance fees. When buying game items from other characters, the prices mustn't differ too much from the average market prices. Trying to wash the money through substitute parties is a serious violation leading to block of the additional characters and penalty to the main one.
09-10-08 06:57: Transferred 100 Gold to CGYH : BroadSword sold
your friend cant sell it???? you'll able to build a market and doing transfer in level 3. | Player - yzmking
transfer log http://www.heroeswm.com/pl_transfers.php?id=4387743
Multi Account :
yzmhero
yzmgame
yzmheroking
yzmwebgame
heroyzm
yzmheroeswm
VERY MUCH it is a lot of transfers !!!
MORE than 100000 gold and are a lot of things. | as you wish, i've counted out yours transfers that posted here, 146 gold per each resources, i think you should have to send me a transfers too if it doesnt break the rule.
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09-19-08 17:57: Received 2000 Gold from SetsunaFSeiei :
09-19-08 17:47: Received 32000 Gold from SetsunaFSeiei :
09-19-08 16:13: Received 40000 Gold from SetsunaFSeiei :
total = 74000 gold
09-19-08 17:48: Transferred 99 Ore to SetsunaFSeiei :
09-19-08 17:46: Transferred 124 Ore to SetsunaFSeiei :
09-19-08 16:16: Transferred 60 Ore 224 Wood to SetsunaFSeiei :
total = 507 resources
assume the lowest price you can get for each resources is 183 gold.
507 x 183 = 92781 gold
but you get 145.95 for each resources.
09-19-08 17:49: Received 224 Ore from SetsunaFSeiei :
09-19-08 17:54: Transferred 224 Ore to SetsunaFSeiei :
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09-26-08 13:31: Received 10000 Gold from SetsunaFSeiei : Thanks for your Ore and gold earlier. Thanks mate
09-25-08 03:16: Received item(s): 'Hunter hat' [10/10] from SetsunaFSeiei
09-20-08 17:02: Received 2 Crystals 2 Sulfur from SetsunaFSeiei :
09-18-08 13:50: Received item(s): 'Hunter shirt' [0/10] from SetsunaFSeiei
09-18-08 13:50: Received item(s): 'Hunter shirt' [0/10] from SetsunaFSeiei
09-18-08 13:50: Received item(s): 'Hunter shirt' [0/10] from SetsunaFSeiei
4 resources with each 369 gold you can get in map = 1476 gold
total gold = 12,076 gold
09-21-08 03:29: Transferred item(s): 'Hunter hat' [10/10] to SetsunaFSeiei
09-21-08 03:29: Transferred item(s): 'Hunter shirt' [10/10] to SetsunaFSeiei
09-21-08 03:29: Transferred item(s): 'Hunter hat' [10/10] to SetsunaFSeiei
09-21-08 03:29: Transferred item(s): 'Hunter shirt' [10/10] to SetsunaFSeiei
assume the price for hunter shirt and hunter hat is 600 gold each = 2,400 gold
09-20-08 17:03: Transferred item(s): 'Hat of knowledge' [25/25] to SetsunaFSeiei
09-19-08 17:53: Transferred 7000 Gold to SetsunaFSeiei :
09-19-08 16:18: Transferred 74 Ore to SetsunaFSeiei :
09-17-08 10:41: Transferred 22 Ore to SetsunaFSeiei :
09-12-08 10:46: Transferred 2000 Gold to SetsunaFSeiei :
09-12-08 10:09: Transferred 3700 Gold to SetsunaFSeiei :
09-11-08 05:45: Transferred item(s): 'Round shield' [6/7] to SetsunaFSeiei
09-11-08 02:54: Transferred item(s): 'Amulet of luck' [25/25] to SetsunaFSeiei . Transaction price: 10 Gold
hat of knowledge = 5,916 gold [4440+(369x4)]
amulet of luck = 2,920
each resources consists of ore and wood is 183 x 96 = 17,568 gold
total gold = 28,804 gold
this means you have received only 12,076 gold but you've transferred out 28,804 gold.
didnt include transfers below:
09-25-08 11:06: Transferred 6 Sulfur to CGYH : Thanks for your assist
09-20-08 16:05: Transferred 1 Gems to medium :
09-20-08 15:49: Transferred 1 Gems to medium :
09-18-08 13:57: Transferred 1 Sulfur to Kecil :
09-17-08 10:36: Transferred 1 Sulfur to Kecil : | [6]
you've transfer out total of 39,104 gold. | | closed by Lexa (2008-10-03 23:54:01) |
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