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| Author | Blindfold tournaments hopeless for elves |
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see a blinfdold battle as a FFW ehre you cannot chat about alliances.
your actions decide what others think are your goals.
does this give advantage to some races? yes it does
the faster races have to decide their initial target first, others can then see wether that suits them in case of not yet attacked, attack the one player left, or go into a contra attack.
the one thing an elf should not do is a rain of arrows, then you attack all, so what can you expect back?
it is diplocamcy by deeds that counts, and that is a totally new skill for a lot | Mirz, the game doesnt work that way at lvl 3-5, it might at your lvl, but at lvl 5 diplomacy got 0 to do with it. If you get banged before you get the chance to do anything then your pretty much toast, no diplomacy in the world will balance the fact that you just lost half of your troops.
Bf at lvl 5 is a game of chance, not one of skills. | | Mirz is right Perkalov. I know this myself, making the mistake of looking threatening to a necros skellies and they attack me while I battled my opponent. I lose bad. And elf easy win at level 7. They are very good, and no everyone does not team up on the elf first. In all 15 battles this has never happened. Usually I find the knight wins- tons of hp and ranged resistance make them a slow tank, but indestructible. I tried dimplomacy for a team up on knight with necro making clear my intentions, but he still attack me (we had been battling, but HE ATTACKED FIRST), so I kill him and eventually the knight just help me finish, and then kill me, win by like 45 swords. | #23 dont agree with you.
im also a lvl7 elf out of the 12 battles i fought sofar a lot of them everybody puts his first attack on the elf.
has nothing to do with diplomacy. every ranged unit someone has is aimed at the elven bowman.
even with my EF i dont have a chance. out of the 12 battles i lost about 8 of them as the first player. just because everybody attacks me first.
look at my battles and you'll see | tommu, for one:
who will attack elven bowmen when there are efk's?
for 2, only shrews would move before yere keepers, and well, if ye are going to sit back and think to shoot, well, think again.
there are 2 players who make a choice in a ffa,
the first to move and the first to move that is not attacked by nr 1
of nr 3 decides to attack the first target as well, the 4rth cannot do anything else than attack 3, for if he sits back and enhoys the scenerym ye can be sure 1 and 3 will keep their alliance to annihilate 4 as well
and i do not see the threat of elven bowmen, stay out of their short range, and well, who cares about them.
when everyone sits back and exchanges arrows, then the elven bows are doomed, for they are most easy tot take out.
like i said, diplomacu bu deeds, so, act! | Each race has disavantadges and advantages and those vary according with levels and new units available.
Concerning my level 5 elves are rather good in hunts and for short battles but dont shine in evryone for oneself battles or in mercenary quests (like secret delivery quest DE-brigand attack where i seen some wizzy win).
Put a mask on every hero, call it blindfold battle, they still see elven bowmen rank 3 troop with 5-7 double shot potential crit and...10 hipoints just same hp as rank 1 bandits but 3 times less defence than them...how tempting !
1 shot and (when needed) a little pinch from the heroes Elves dead XD
What they bring fairies instead? two shots ko.
As several players from higher level testified, even when they spare someone with 'diplomacy' they still got picked by them because all gang on elves its like a tradition...high damages few hp kill first.
Elves = scapegoats in every free for all battles. | diplomacy in this kind of battles is present only when you have players who think a bit further than their next move. who want to survive longer, not just bump one unit into another. when all 4 or 3/4 of them are dumb, diplomacy can hardly take place.
who's gonna be your ally and who's gonna be your victim - the planning starts with the settlement of the units, when you see what races are the participants in the battle.
for example i prefer to use arts for +18 ini and this is what gives me, in most cases, the chance to attack first and show my other neighbour how the things will go. if he turns to be the owner of at least some brains, he will attack his opponent, forming an alliance, and guarantee himself longer presence on the board. this is where diplomacy starts. and ends when swordsmen or ogres decide what direction to take...
and stop complaining, my brother elves! we are not here to win, but to take as much of these cheap skill points as we can. there are other tournaments where we will predominate ) | TO EVERYONE WHO GOT GANGED UP bu 2 or 3 players!
from the begiining of battle chose 1 opponent and put your troops in front of him to show everyone whom are u going to atack. 1 simple rule, if in combat 2 knight (or other same fraction), they hardly will atack each other, so 2 other players have to atack knights. if 2 players gang up on u, one of him would be atacked by 4th. |
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