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I've noticed a new monster has come into play called "Renegade thugs"
https://www.lordswm.com/army_info.php?name=thiefarcher

Now I have the option to fight them, but I see they are very overpowered for the dificulty that has been given
medium level are 30 of them against a level 4 player.

reason:
seeing their hitpoints "40" each
They look like 4 of my bandits put together, which means 120 bendits am I against.
(https://www.lordswm.com/army_info.php?name=scout)
Their initiative is 1 lower than my rogue's.
And let's not forget the poisoning.
(looks more like a overpowered poisoner to me)

Whit 14 rogues and 10 minotaurs I will have a hard time.
A whooping 1200hp total is what they have.
5-7 damage per rogue and 4-7 per minotaur so 5,75 each average. (rounded down)
1200/5,75= 210 hits needed(rounded up)
210/24 = 9 full rounds.

earthen spikes added 16 * 4 = 64 = 1 dead(compansation) for the poisoning. (they will be spreaded far from each other as always)
I haven't even calcultated that they are the first ones to schoot and my own morale and luck and the lower speed of my minotaurs and the defence and offencebonus of the troops.

Are these creatures realy qualifeid als medium?
Calculating it I would surely get much higher.
I haven't seen any darkelf defeat that many yet, but I will wait.

If they had a melee penalty I would qualify them as medium, but they are tough.

For those who have seen them no spam here, but you're reaction only please.

Question is easy:
Are they whit 30 creatures qualifeid as a medium enemy or harder than that against a lvl 4 darkelf?
the colour of dots is based on the top hunters list of your faction and your level
Same for all the other new monsters, when they first entered they were red with an exclamation mark (even easy ones like 2 angels, because there wasnt any information about them) But when those monsters are longer in the game, more people will fight them, and the coloured dot will give a better indication
u forgot to add in the attack and the defense but i agree way to hard






renegade thug= poisoners on steroids on steroids :)
Well actually, no level 4 DE has fought them and won, so the dot should be red with ! right?
their a new creature. admin have rated them alittle off sometimes.

for Xerfer:
it's a new creature. most level 4 DE probalbly can't fight them in that number at all.

for Haldamir:
i also think that admins rate them from the fact of a diamond upgrade.
you still can't kill them with a diamond upgrade with a DE. poisoners are useless in small numbers.
Well actually, no level 4 DE has fought them and won, so the dot should be red with ! right?

If noone of your faction has fought the monsters and won yet, the hunt will be shown as yellow, not red with exclamation mark.
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