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the namers ...



Authorthe namers ...
transfer log of nonamer is at least suspicious

https://www.lordswm.com/pl_transfers.php?id=4424388&page=2

missnamer and poornamer are said to be no multis but instead accounts of brothers and sisters ... and they have a lot of transfers among them (clan fees, loans, elements, enchanting, etc.)

now ... what about this?

09-25-09 16:40: Transferred 4000 Gold to missnamer : 500x8 elements ggold return
09-25-09 16:39: Received item(s): 'Sword of might' [80/80] to be returned until 26-09-09 16:39 ; for 0 battles ; (repairing allowed) from missnamer . Transaction price: 1 Gold
09-25-09 16:39: Received 17280 Gold from missnamer : enchant 4% earth sword of might (money for the elements)

In the same minute, likely from the same PC, operations from 2 accounts.

or this:

09-24-09 23:54: Transferred 3000 gold to the #455 clan account
09-24-09 23:54: Received 1500 Gold from poornamer : clan invitation
09-24-09 23:53: Received 1500 Gold from missnamer : clan invitation

operations in the same minute from all 3 accounts ...

and you can check alone more of these.


I ask sheriffs to investigate and look at PC's involved. If it is as I suspect, the connections are all from the same PC meaning these accounts are infringing rules.
yes, we did mentioned in the personal info that we live in the same house and use the same computer, so definitely our IP overlaps each other.
and you can simply check the transfer log, you will find out that missnamer and poornamer sometimes did not send me the elements for enchant, simply because they are missing those elements. instead, they send me the gold equivalent to the price of the elements required to enchant the effect on to the items, no one benefits from the transfers, i still required to spent those gold i receive to get the elements needed to enchant.
and about the clan, you can easily see that i had not taken any gold out of the clan, all the invitation fees are directly sent into the clan account, no moneys are taken out, so i really dont get which financial rules i had broken.
Assuming you are really 3 different people and you never fought in the same combat, you did not break any rule.
The point is that from transfer logs it seems that you all are on-line at the same time, and this is suspicious ...
The admins can check if this is valid in general (checking when you are on-line and off-line) or it's just some cases (the ones I looked through your transfer logs). In the first case, I would consider you are in reality only one person just cheating ... and the fact that you only are "smithing" is giving you an advantage so if the other charachters are just multis you are cheating ...
In principle I tend to believe you are honest, but I like admins to check.
Nothing personal, believe me!
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