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Yes swords are slow and have low initiative.But they have good defense and same HP as shrews. Combined with escort, they can be very strong.Hero will retaliate any melee damage even if it is no retaliation.When shrews are available to DEs, xbows will be available for knights.And retaliation takers are needed for DEs before lvl8 as rogues do not have no retaliation ability.And at that time, bowmen would be useful to kill all the retaliation takers with their volley ability. 12 rogues are stronger than 20 bowmen.But only 7 rogues are available for DEs at lvl 1 while knights have 20 bowmen at the same time.And griffins have high initiative and unlimited retaliation.And knights have twice the number of guardians than shrews(with no poisoner or minos).Spliting the troops against knights would be useful for knights with their escort ability.
About hunting,check all the levels.Wizards are the most, then elves.Other factions are rare.At 8-13 lvls, DEs become more frequent but knights are more frequent.DEs dominate only at lvl14 hunters.Des are good in hunting only against low initiative and low speed units.
Most of the time DEes have to hit their enemies first and finish most of them before they hit.
My friend, no offense, but I think you need to play more at higher levels to get a better picture. In my time here, I have seen tons of threads/posts from other factions 'complaining' how strong DE faction is.

- Do you know that at 1 time (I remember this clearly), 46 of the top 50 players here were playing DE? It's THE faction of choice for all high level players if they wanna progress in their hunter, thief guilds etc.

Not convinced?

Look at the top 10 players,
- 9/10 of them have DE racial 8-9.
- Top 20 players: 18 out of 20 have DE racial 7-9.

Look at the players with the highest TG wins. Almost all of them got the majority of their TG points playing as DE.

- Hunts records. Look at the players with the most HG points. ALL of them got there by playing as DE to get them HG points.

Need more? 3000 words per post is not enough, my friend. :)
Look at the top 10 players,
- 9/10 of them have DE racial 8-9.
- Top 20 players: 18 out of 20 have DE racial 7-9.

And the reasons they are playing other factions now are,
- They can't get any higher racial than 9 (or will take too long from 8 to 9),
- They wanna get some faction resistance under their belt.

- Hunts records. Look at the players with the most HG points. ALL of them got there by playing as DE to get them HG points.
Unless they introduce combat level 15/magic school 4-5 or seriously increase the troop count of the other factions, NO ONE is gonna get HG8 without playing some point as DE, or even come close to it.
NO ONE is gonna get HG8 without playing some point as DE, or even come close to it.

It should be HG7. :)
I don't know about that.I am a new comer. So I may be wrong.But I felt that elfs and wizs have an advantage from the team hunts I had with elves and wizards. I presented my 2nd idea now bcause it would take a long time for me to reach lvl14 and test all factions.So I think we can leave my second idea(rather a complaint:) for now and discuss about first.
for the first idea, personally i dont liked it, dont get me wrong i like group battles but idea with no arts is bad i think in high levels like 12-14 with full arts you get a lot of expierence and especially a lot of fsp which is very important building your racial. And playing in no arts(or min ap) you get so less exp and fsp compared with full ap in the same time. You said no exp and no fsp so whats the point to play it? Just time wasting... Getting exp and fsp is the one of the main reason why players do gb.
No.You took it wrong.I didn't mean modify group battles and duels now available.I meant a separate type of fight just for fun which cost nothing and give no exp.Bcause you can't lvl up fast without enough money and guild points.So you will have to do enrolling most of the time and it would be boring.There would be duels and group battles at the same time like now which give exp.Exp less battles(duel and group) would be separate type of fight.
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