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I am lvl 12 knight and enter to battle w fully defence talent combo, the most of them, i was the higher lvl and have 6-7 lvl team mates.
Evey time i have a lower lvl magic opponent (10-11 dark elf magic build) and that happens twice he had lvl 8-9 to help him. In the set up i was in the opposite corner of the field and the time take me to reach the defended DE he has exterminate all my units just by casting spell!!
I crossing all the field w guards just to be killed by one hit of hydras and mino soldiers...
I think that the system dont calculate the magic as a factor and make the mix based on AP of the players.
Anyway it was a free tourny(no durabillity loss) and i enjoyed it but is very frustrating to take one hour to reach your main opponent and dont give a decent hit.. | This tourney is great, I love it. As a Spell DE (lvl 10) I can usually do decent damage. There were some imbalanced battles though.
Eg. the last one:
https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?warid=489340610
Lvl 11 , Lvl 8 vs. Lvl 9, Lvl 6, and Lvl 10 (me)
It is 3 against 2, and we had 6 more levels altogether.
Maybe we were the last to join, but I don't understand how this was made up. | Yes, different factions should be taken into account. As a wizard I can't cope with barbarians (lost twice because higher level barbarians in the opponent team) and knights have no chance against me (even lvl 13 and 14 were no big deal).
Nice example: One lvl 13 barb against lvl 10 DE, lvl 6 knight and me (lvl 11 wizard). No chance at all. He simply ran us down.
Opposite: One lvl 14 knight against lvl 11 Demon, lvl 6 demon and me. He had no real chance from the beginning.
In the end it evened out for me, but it's not so exciting to know in the beginning who will probably win. Maybe it's only a problem of this "extreme" factions, but I bet no wizard or knight will get one of the first places in this tournament, no matter how good the strategies were.
P.S.: You can't simply add the combat levels and make your decision about equal matches. For example one level 12 can easily beat down 2 level 6. He even could beat much more heroes of that level..
P.P.S: I liked the tournament very much, even if I was a bit disappointed to have no chance to get in the first ranks because mentioned disbalances. There were some crazy and exciting battles. :) | This kind of tournament was highly criticized on .ru but I agree with Nutella. This tournament is crazy and fun! The amount of fsp you get for a win is just crazy! Between the anniversary gift and this tourney, I'm racking up skill points like crazy! At this rate, I'll get racial 9 knight before I level up to 13.
366 fsp before 1.1 million exp? It's possible :P
Balance of the teams is mostly nonexistent but I am having a blast here. Thank you so much admins!! | | Sorry, but I really hate, that I'm forced to buy completly new arts (that I will never used outside the tournament) just to take place there. | | your highest faction level is 3, I doubt you can join even if you had the required artifacts. | Magic players are not so great at higher lvls, as many players already said. I (necro 12) faced magic DE lvl 13. During whole game, he was able to take about half of my army down. But his units had so small attack, that they were useless.
And about balancing: lvl 12 player is much stronger that lower lvls thanks to citadel upgrade and new arts. So the sum of lvls is not all ;).
Second thing why is balance impossible are talents. I played agains knight lvl 14 who had full light magic talents. And I had no chance against him. But I also played against knight lvl 14 who had defence talents. And he was crushed.
I have some victories, some loses, but I love this tourney. Thanks to "random" system, you can play it for fun ;)
And this game should be about fun :D | well.....spell caster is the ONLY chance for lower level side to win higher level side.
for example,this battle
smart0eddie[11]wiz, [11]knight, [9]elf vs [14]barb, [6]wiz
lv14 smashed every thing,and we had totally no chance
of course some would say it's because wiz+kni against barb,
but what if I'm not wiz? I don't think it will make any difference.
and for this
[14]DE vs [11]wiz, smart0eddie[11]wiz
2 wizs and could barely won 1 de (23garg left)
In my opinion,it is the "auto balance system" should be modified,not spell caster.
By the way,why on earth 2 of my friends(both wiz) and me(wiz) had fought most our tournament battles at weaker side? | for Sven91:
I also have elf faction 3, but i was able to join tourney on level 10 .
It is calculated seeing what is your highest faction level . As mine is 5 i was able to join . | 29.
strange,system says that I need at least racial 6 to take part in the fight
(though I have already finish 12 battles =P) | Joined this time just to see what this tournament is like.
But next time Im not participating anymore. Battles are way too long (2+ hours) and its very boring, during troop settlement you already know who s going to win. | For those wiz who lost most of points:
Try to be mighty. I got 9 points out of 12 games. Although not very good, I see the hope for wiz.
For the three games that I did not win, one is 1 vs 3 and I made bad moves, one is because of the bad strategy of my teammate, the last one is because of my bad (I wrongly evaluated the situations). Otherwise, I guess I can win one more point, | mixed tournament: pro and cons
i am a pro! :P
seriously though, if you want to have fun, this tourney is a great thing.
if you want to win it, you have to be very lucky, because battles are not perfectly balanced. but balance was far worse on .ru, because of a lot more buffers than here.
this time, no artifact loss, so i can't complain. a bunch of free xp and fsp, and much more important, administration gave my character a purpose to live more (because, apparently, they're back). next time they disappear, i am gone. | For me it doesn't matter if I win or lose, it was fun to have this tournament, that's why I play here.
And if there's gonna be more of these tourneys I will join for sure, even if arts lose durability. | It's great that so many people had fun with a new tourny! It's even better that admins invested a little time in .com
Personally, i'm not really interested in tournys that take well over an hour per battle and rely so much on the luck of the draw to win. If I want to rely on luck, i'll play in the Tavern :) | | This type of tournament is better for high levels, small guys like me have slim chances. I think I will pass - will wait until they grant us minor or blindfold tourney - that will be real fun | I agree in a fashion, when the levels range too much the battles are far less fun, the most fun battle I had which was really intense was this one:
https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?warid=489341877<=-1
05-05-10 18:41[Full] [Chat]: lcorndogl[13], vonRoss[8], infect[13] vs Valgard[12], Nottingham[11], mellor[12]
It really went down to the wire, but when playing necro, when I got pitted against a caster DE & wiz, level 11 and 10 respectively
https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?warid=489345295<=-1
05-05-10 21:37[Full] [Chat]: Violent_Moon[7], lcorndogl[13], kotLeon[7] vs alfqwerty[9], Ranor[11], mosquito[10] | and adding to my last point, as necro playing against two wizards and an elf was disasterous (with no teammate)
https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?warid=489364256<=-1
05-06-10 17:13[Full] [Chat]: lcorndogl[13] vs -W1zarD-[7], Seselis[9], xCNxCallum[11] | I like it. BUT!
I would remove minimum racial - most of my friend are lvl 11 - 12 so they are at time when first time switched from "main" fraction. And this would be nice time to try GB and get big load of FSP in new fractions.
Adn yes, unbalanced:D I as necro lvl 11 ( racial 8 necro, 4 demon ) + lvl 6 barbar VS lvl 9 necro ( 7 racial ) + lvl 10 demon ( 7 racial ) . I just run over my enemies, they have no chance even alone them.
Next example.
Necro 11 + Necro 12 + Wiz 6 VS Wiz 10 + Elf 14 - cant even compare to elf...
and the end? Many good players will have more lost than wins and many average will win the price:) | There were some imbalanced battles though.
Eg. the last one:
https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?warid=489340610
Lvl 11 , Lvl 8 vs. Lvl 9, Lvl 6, and Lvl 10 (me)
It is 3 against 2, and we had 6 more levels altogether.
11+8 against 9+6+10 seems to be relaltively fair.
you had 6 more levels but sum of levels don't means anything.
for exemple a level10 is worth at least 2 level7 (and sum of levels is 10 VS 14)
i had nearly the same levels than in your exemple in one of my battles:
https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?warid=489354686
Lvl 11, Lvl 8 vs. Lvl 9, Lvl 5, and Lvl 10
same levels than you, excepted a level5 instead of your level6 but it don't make a huge difference.
level 11+8 won this battle ;) |
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