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AuthorAll about Elves faction: Stats, Talent, Tactics, Strategy
I didn't do that well on DE thieving either due to same problem and had given it up a long time ago, took me even ages to get to TG 2 so I kept saving up to build elf castle to continue there but now as elf the AI troops are even more increased.
I'm currently at 12 losses and managed 1 win only because the demon was a caster and his troops ran instead of fighting.

Also in another even the demons fiends and blazing hounds gated in, we can't do that so how come the AI can?
Look the "demonic" skill description. They can gate if their lord has the gatting racial skill. When we play as dark demon we lose this ability. The question here is if it's fair to let them have such troops. But we have not a Caravan of Dark Demons, so I think it is ok.
Same concept in MC defence where it's a 2v3. The 3rd AI opponent will be of a certain faction e.g tribal but it's troops composition can include those of it's alt version. In TG, same thing for caravan of wizards where BW troops have mini-arts and, caravan of elves where charmer troops having both morale and luck. It's just how caravan works.
Just another quick question for lawton, have you been using a lot of AP for all youe thieving battles up till now? Cos for TG2 that does seem like quite high troop numbers. I've been using around min to 15AP for all of my thief battles and the difficulty stays relatively the same (with about 50-60% win rate)
No, I've always used AP around 29, after I had reached TG 2 around august of last year I stopped playing it because I wanted to do TG as elf from then on and started building it's castle and all upgrades untill I recently completed had all. I checked my battles for then, oddly enough my winnings were around 80% with even streaks of over 10. The only difference is that I am now 1 combat level higher but that still doesn't explain the huge mob difference when I compare it to other players of my level.
I'm currently at 17 losses and 5 wins against the AI which makes my current win rate 22%. It seems my winning chances are higher when the AI is a caster and starts running with it's troops instead of fighting. The insane ammount of troops has slightly dropped with like 18% after 15 matches orso, instead of over 1k skelli crossbows I get well over 800 of them, rest of AI's troops are around 18% less as well.
Hi do you have some advice for successful strategy in group battles?
I am confused, are the elves absolutely the weakest faction in group battles or am I so bad tactician? I have no chance to beat knight even with enchants. How can I beat 120 guards...? Tribal is incredibly overpowered. I make no damage, while they do huge and they are playing 2x times more cause shamans rapid and delay.
Battle wizard is overpowered as well. Do u know how great damage can do combination of Sphynx Guardian, Genies and Battlemagi?...
Dwarf has dreadbanes which fly over the whole game map and make 2 strikes damage to 2-3 creatures before they can play, Bersekers take rune of agility and kills other unit as well. For elves deadly...
I have chance agaist Dark elves but must not have talent tactic otherwise tree or unicorn dead with lizard cavalry after the 1st round.
I have also chance against barbarian but they must not have Ogres magi, or no chance...I have nothing with I can take down 2k hp unit.
I have chance against demons but I must have max shooters or no chance... Efk absolutely unnecessary as they cant reach hell horses and cerberos.
Against necro and wizards are good but mostly balanced battle.

Elves have good initiative but that is no used cause efk cant reach the other units and until they have 2nd turn, are death or halved, the sprites as well. Unicorns are good, good ini, damage, speed but total hp is not good... G Bowmens must have better initiative than opposing shooters otherwise they do not get to game. Anchorites must be more or they cant do good damage. Treefolk is the only unit which mostly lasts more than 2 rounds but they have no chance agaist more numerous creatures with better total damage and initiative...

Do u have some good hints, talents, strategy, starting setup and so on which could help me in frustrating GB or is that without chance?...
From what I have seen is that the elfs creatures tend to die fast in GB, unless they get buffed with rapid/stoneskin etc, but most play as charmer elf in GB instead, dish out damage fast and then keep on running when their troop count becomes close to none to finish with lightning bolts, works wonders in GB.

Back to my thieving, I'm now at 31 losses and 30 wins, the insane amount of AI troops got gradually less to practicly half of what it was at the start of it, I still have no idea why it started up insanely like that.
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what talents and Recruiting should i have for WG (im not using magic)
For both normal elf and charmer elf please
for Lawton:
On the old .com days, TG difficulty used to reset after every combat level up. Maybe it still a valid rule.
I see. I'm still keeping count, I surpassed the losses, I'm at 58 losses and 80 wins now, so I climbed to a 60% win rate now, the AI troops have practicly halved from start though, now and then some insane ammounts still pop up but not not that many times as in the start of it.
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Whats a good strategy for a Charmer Elf, against a Regular Elf who has a Shooter ++ setup - full ancho, full gmb and Uni, Dragons and Trees (no EFK).

Ancho will shoot first kill one stack of sharps, and the other will also die with atleast 2 stacks of elf shooters remaining. Trees block uni and dragon access to one stack of shooters, while bretheren are engaged by Unis. In this scenario, it is difficult to avoid getting killed very quickly by the shooters. Killing opposite stack of Trees and uni takes time, giving shooters atleast 3 - 4 turns (often at close range)

Any suggestions?
Any suggestions on how to win this battle?

https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?warid=758044287
Whats a good strategy for a Charmer Elf, against a Regular Elf who has a Shooter ++ setup - full ancho, full gmb and Uni, Dragons and Trees (no EFK).

I always feel... charm elf are weak against classic elf.
yes you can kill their GMB fast but tree and unicorn will kill you later, after lv16 and above, 4 dragon make very big difference.


Any suggestions on how to win this battle?

https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?warid=758044287


my battle against barb but... year 2010 = =|
no charm elf :P
https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?lt=-1&warid=493454046
https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?lt=-1&warid=493480816
https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?lt=-1&warid=493484455
hmm.. sorry didnt noticed you was vs AI. ignore my above post.
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