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math is math, you can only count that out with the possibility of you can get the same color in a row.
the math Archmage show that the chance of success for next round was taken from the chance of failure from previous game. BUT, that's the wrong concept. it should always reset and count again.
why? it remove the success chance from previous game and narrow down the rate of success on same color.
we are talking on the possibility of getting 1 out of 2 color FROM either red or black [ignore the 0 and 00 for easy explanation]. so, the 36 numbers with 2 color, the numbers always stay there without remove. you are not removing 1 number away after each game.
hence, it is always 50% every time to get either red or black for every time the ball land. so, it wont be surprise that you get 100 times of the same color in a row. |
refering to mathematics
roulette is inappropriate if you think of probability theory.
I wouldn`t wonder if it would happen like thousand times because random - is random and it cannot be calculated. |
it wont be surprise that you get 100 times of the same color in a row.
The probability of this is the same ignore the 0 and 00 for easy explanation as any other combination you can think of.
I wouldn`t wonder if it would happen like thousand times because random - is random and it cannot be calculated.
That is the beauty of mathematics it predicts what chances are to this happen. To get 1000 red in a row the probability is 0.(add 300 zeroes) 933263 pecent |
but this beauty is only dedicated to fill someone with confidence in the future.
yes, I can say - <50% chance is less probable than >50%, and 50% means chances are equal. not more.
this can be quite useful in those situations, where chances increase/decrease.
but it is completely useless where the chances stay the same all the time.
after say 500 spins you expect zero..suspension rises..and upps, the 10th time the same number drops and they lose all the money. and people start to arguing about this and (what is most ridiculous) claim it can`t happen. |
ok. if we're talking science here: let's get empirical.
to all the people here claiming to know how to predict roulette with the help of mathematics: show it.
predict, and we'll see.
and don't blame the losses on that chance-percentage of losing, because then your method has no use.
[p.s. i don't mean any offense here, just posing a scientific challenge] |
Archmage:
Chances 1 time in a row = 47.2%
Chances 2 times in a row = 22.2%
Chances 3 times in a row = 10.5%
Chances 4 times in a row = 4.7%
Chances 5 times in a row = 2.3%
Chances 6 times in a row = 1.1%
Chances 7 times in a row = 0.5%
So round about every 200 times it will be 7 times the same color.
Pang:
we are talking on the possibility of getting 1 out of 2 color FROM either red or black [ignore the 0 and 00 for easy explanation]. so, the 36 numbers with 2 color, the numbers always stay there without remove. you are not removing 1 number away after each game.
hence, it is always 50% every time to get either red or black for every time the ball land. so, it wont be surprise that you get 100 times of the same color in a row.
Both of u r telling the same thing :)
Probability of first ball landing red is = 50% (removed 0 and 00)
second "" = again 50 % and so on
so the chances for a particular combination in seven rows =
1*50%*50%*50%*50%*50%*50%*50% = 0.78%. whatever the combination is ie whether it is RRRRRRR or RBRBRBR or BRBBBRB. All have the same chance to happen. .78 out of 100 |
roulette is inappropriate if you think of probability theory.
I wouldn`t wonder if it would happen like thousand times because random - is random and it cannot be calculated.
Probability theory is for calculating the random. But u cant predict the outcome. Thats why its called ' Probability' :) |
refering to maths it can only 2x2=4 times the same colour appear. but here 5 times the same colour is a reality? its not possible !
I cant get what ur logic is in making that conclusion. Mathematically its possible. Not just 5 but even 1000000 rows can be RED continuously. The Only problem will be the probability to happen (.5 rise-to 1000000) |
But u cant predict the outcome. Thats why its called ' Probability' :)
Of course I can predict the outcome. It will be either black, red or green or a server bug. :) |
It will be either black, red or green or a server bug.
What if the site 404s?! But yes, the roulette is indeed being manipulated. How else is it supposed to spin if no one is around to manipulate it... no wait our roulette doesn't have a wheel! XD |
Your math is flawed guys
Roulette is supposedly truly random therefore
5 reds = 18/38 ^ 5
5 blacks = 18/38 ^ 5
BUT
5 of the same = 1 * (18/38 ^ 4)
You are right though that RRRRB is the same as RRRRR |
for Pang: You are right but also wrong
So if it is 50:50 for it to be Red or Black the next time it will also be 50:50
But the odds that it will be
RR = 0.5^2
BB = 0.5^2
RB = (0.5^2)*2 |
| Dont you think that if there was a system to beat the roulette, casinos would no longer exist nowadays? |
| "The house never loses" |
Its not actual roulette...
It can be whatever the number generator chooses |
First rule of propabiltiy multiply: Relation must exist.
There is no relation between the 2 throws of the ball here. so every time you thorw it you would have the 18/38 chance for RB and 2/38 for G.(simpler: first throw does not affect the second thorw or later ones)
BUT if you want to calculate that : whats the chance of getting 5 B in a row then multiply all of them together.(this calculation does not affect your chance in roullete) |
