| Author | bring back old economy |
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couple of things were inplemented with the economy change actually killed it.
1. take off the rent an artifact option in the store. this takes business away from all the leasers that used to litter the forum.
2. further lower the repair cost of all artifacts (including special artifacts) since the repair is now 95% of the actual cost people arent getting repairs because it isnt worth it. they are just buying the artifact new. and since the shop arts have been lowered the cost of special artifacts have been indirectly lowered due to the supply and demand. now those artifacts cost more to repair than they are worth.
3. get rid of artifact shop completely. instead put factories with all the shop artifacts on the map. this forces to buy from map or market which keeps the gold in the economy instead of giving it to the game.
with the new updates a lot of gold has been handed over to the game. if these changes were implemented more people will have more gold essentially. it keeps the gold in the economy and gives it to other players. taking rent off shop and lowering repair costs brings back player services which was a big part of the game that sadly isnt anymore. getting rid of the shop allows players to enroll at higher wage jobs more often and makes it easier to sell on the market. |
price per battle for all artifacts has barely dropped, so there is no reason for people to suddenly stop repairing their artifacts.
But even before this update, selling and buying a new artifact was often cheaper or at same price as repairing it. So unless for enchanted items, there was never any use for a smith. |
I like the rent an artifact option, makes game more fun=) B4 I had to save gold to buy artifacts at market or shop and it was kinda boring... But maybe its less interesting now since artifacts price has decreased.
What would be nice to have back is the sell option, like when u want to play roulette and need gold fast u sell your stuff, or when durability is at 0/. |
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All is good/Better now than before.
Plus, this allows younger levels (3) to be able to not quit the game and it allows them to purchase arts, even if it is one battle after battle ;D |
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If you want to bring back old economy bring back old enroll productivity rates..so at LG 4 you can have almost 2 productivity. |
im not saying the whole economy just those 3 things. for example before hunter gloves sold at around 1000 gold. so before you could buy a hunter glove at 0/10 for around 200 gold. now you could repair it at 400 gold to 8/9 and sell for 800 gold for a 200 profit. now that hunter gloves have depreciated to about 450 which even if you get it for free you are still not making your money back by repairing it. Look at the hunter forum for proof. anyone who actively checked it before would see several active threads wanting to buy 0/10 duribility hunter artifacts. now if you look there is NO active threads.
then look at shop artifacts. lets say there is a shop artifact x that sells for 1000 gold after the drop which now means the repair would be 95% for 950 gold. now if you wanted an 80% repair job it would cost 100% of the cost.
now would you rather pay 950 gold for an 8/9 artifact or 1000 gold for a 10/10? thats exactly my point. smithing isnt worth the money you have to pay anymore. Go look at some of the top smiths i bet they get minimal to no business anymore.
@dr damage, look at the trade forum it is essentially dead. player to player trade is gone. i fail to see how it is better than before. and those level 3 players could easily rent from player leasers at the same rate which keeps the gold in the economy instead of the game. what good does it do to buy an artifact from the shop for the economy? now if you bought it on the map.
1. the factory gets gold to hire workers
2. workers can enroll earning about 30 more gold that enrolling in mines.
where can you earn gold now? hunts, mg quests, enrollment ( which is a lot less now then before) and then if you wanted to buy/sell elements then enchanting.
look at what you lose
smithing
buying used artifacts and reselling
lowered enrollment
leasing weapons
so much gold is going into the game now and the only source coming from the game to us is hunts and tournaments. its a lot tougher to get lots of gold now. its not the price drop that killed it. the price drop didnt effect it. what did was introducing more ways to funnel our money into the game instead of eachother.
its just simple economics |
| it might seem "easier" now because now you can easier get artifacts and easier to meet the requirements. the game is lords of war and MONEY. it truly was before now there is minimal you can do to earn some extra gold. |
smithing isnt worth the money you have to pay anymore. Go look at some of the top smiths i bet they get minimal to no business anymore.
It never was.Thats what you don't understand.Smithing esp 90% is and was only useful for enchanted/rare/hunter arts.
you can do to earn some extra gold. You don't need to earn 'extra' gold unless you want a TGI.since arts price have dropped, you can easily buy a full arts of your lvl easily (considering u have appropriate LG for ur lvl) |
It never was.Thats what you don't understand.Smithing esp 90% is and was only useful for enchanted/rare/hunter arts
and it no longer is for hunting because hunter arts are plentyfull on the market and repair is more expensive if not the same as market price.
You don't need to earn 'extra' gold unless you want a TGI.since arts price have dropped, you can easily buy a full arts of your lvl easily (considering u have appropriate LG for ur lvl)
would u rather have 100k gold+ arts or just enough to get by? what if you want an estate clan upgraded constructions or enchanted artifacts? yes its enough to get by somewhat comfortably but not enough to enjoy any of the nicer things in the game. |
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Very bad idea
Coz of new economic change we can see many battles in CG section ^^ |
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Maybe for players trading hunter arts the change is bad because it's hard to earn anything now.
On other hand for ordinary player, this change is a big advantage. Repair cost of shop arts was lowered by far, cpb dropped a bit, buying price dropped by 2/3. More players can afford more shop arts without saving for long time.
I would say, economy is changing and traders should know how to adjust. |
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The new economic is great :) |
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but why should traders suffer??
to be frank only one change can significantly improve the economy.
That is decrease the repair prices.
right now the repair cos is 95% of the original item. If you just decrease it to 60-70% then not only will arts be available for lower levels but smiths and traders can actually make money out of this |
sorry for double post
but ill like to add that for casual gamers like me it is difficult to make money because i can only log in for 1-2 hrs a day. so its difficult to build LG and HG.
and if this game is about money, the game doesnt provide any other means to earn other them. |
but ill like to add that for casual gamers like me it is difficult to make money because i can only log in for 1-2 hrs a day. so its difficult to build LG
If u have a cell phone then download puffin browser n u can make 14-15 LG points per day |
for abh33: How much do you earn from trading hunter arts and stuff ? 10 gold ? 20 ? maybe a 50 ? I don't think 50 gold matters esp. now that you don't need much gold.
The admins reduced enroll rates but didn't change arts price.They are just finishing what they started. |
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@loafoant
really?
apparently you haven't been crunching numbers
lets take my fav art the sword of retribution.
if repair cost is lowered to 70% of art cost rather then 95%, then new repair cost will be 2580x 0.7 = 1806
if you get an art repaired 90 % at 105% of cost then it will cost you 1806 x 1.05 = 1897
cost per battle of sword of retribution = 2580/40 = 64.5
so value of a 36/39 art should be 64.5x36 = 2322
so if i sell at 2322 i will make profit of 2322 - 1897 = 425 gold
425 gold is nothing to sneeze at.
and if i keep a lower margin for myself and sell it at lower cost then 2322, it will bring down per battle cost of art. Easier for newbies to purchase, wouldnt you say?? |
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It will not be nice if you get every thing easy. :D |
