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@Erathia, you do realise that by saying 'you should be far better than the average, not only be on the top in your level and faction' that you are only strengthening my made point in #257? In other words you are agreeing with me and in fact making your point in #240 of 'In fact i meant the idea to encourage players to try different factions and try to be the best for that faction.' even totally obsolete. Flip flops anyone?
for Konan_D:
Exactly ikr! xD
IMO they are not encouraging that really, not that they should because it will be unfair to people who don't have multiple castles. Maybe some people changed factions to see which one fares better, but that shouldn't affect their efficiency and chance to get the ring because it depends on which faction you have.
For example
3 best lv10 dark elves got 150 scores when the average for all 50 lv10 de is 100
1 best lv10 barb got 105 scores when the average for all 10 lv10 barb is 100
who will be rewarded ?


And u r saying they are comparing sane level same faction. U cant compare a barb score with a de or elf coz each faction have their own disadvantages. Again like comparing apples & oranges ;p

If you want to get a reward by only being the top in your level and faction, you can try to get a medal in the survuvir tour.

Then why saying A special artifact 100 were awarded the best fighters on the efficiency of those who accompanied all 72 caravan. Calculation of efficiency depended on the power of 30 of the most complex caravan losers relative to the other characters of the same level, faction and class.
Strangely some Battle reviews are available but some are not!!

Can u guys see this 1
https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?lt=-1&warid=736491942
for Konan_D:
Nope. I can't view it either.
for the above:

In fact I was just telling everyone (not some specific guys) my viewpoint. I totally have no interest in arguing with anyone with different viewpoint, and no interest to answer certain questions that people with normal logic can understand.


and for Lawton:

by saying 'you should be far better than the average, not only be on the top in your level and faction', I mean 'far better than the average of the players with the same level and faction and class'
In fact I was just telling everyone (not some specific guys) my viewpoint. I totally have no interest in arguing with anyone with different viewpoint, and no interest to answer certain questions that people with normal logic can understand.
I m one of that everyone & ur also insulting by saying that I don't have normal logic!!

If you don't know the facts then don't make random comment or support everything blindly. From the very beginning of civilization men questioned the unknown & Every question brings out new knowledge.

I am not arguing but want to know whats the logic of ur assumption or the basis of ur conclusion the admin encourages to play different faction?
Hmm it seems that only battle reviews for battles played on or after 02/12 is available. Anything b4 that is not available.
For Konan_D

I'm not saying about your question, because that is a very hard question unless the admin answers it.

Why I thought it is an encouragement? You can imagine that without this kind of evaluation ('efficiency'), most of top 100 may be de\elf\dwarf in this event, and most of top 100 in other events (e.g. castles\hunts ) may be some other factions (e.g. tribal\elf), which forces people to select some specific faction for the specific event.

And with this evaluation ('efficiency'), the situation becomes (at least a little) better (any faction has chance, more or less), although it can not be completely fair.
@Erathia, you are saying you meant: 'far better than the average of the players with the same level and faction and class', but then you also said that one should be far better than the average, not only be on the top and that one should play survival tournament instead if wanting a reward by being top in ones level and faction. Go see your posts #258 and #259. So which is it? Because they negate each other. I guess this must be the 'normal logic' that you are talking about.

And it is a real cheap way to try to dismiss made arguments by making a remark like 'I totally have no interest in arguing with anyone with different viewpoint, and no interest to answer certain questions that people with normal logic can understand.' just because you can't make a single argument back. This is nothing but pompous behaviour.

And just to be clear, there is no arguing going on, one makes points and one can either agree with them or make arguments back to them showing why one does not agree. Not only does this keep the dialogue going but keeps it inviting to others as well.
But the rewarding still encourages to play with your Main & specially Elf,DE or dwarf as they are the highest snatchers here.

Even you yourself haven't tried different faction & u get the ring while some other who tried elf like liuker who in turn trying to say that I have to play way better then my fellow lvl player and but don't know that playing other then main faction creates a handicap from the very beginning & didn't get it ;p
(his score is perfect example getting of less efficiency point)

most of top 100 may be de\elf\dwarf in this event, and most of top 100 in other events (e.g. castles\hunts ) may be some other factions (e.g. tribal\elf), which forces people to select some specific faction for the specific event.
Then the very idea that every faction is balanced & has same chance of winning is rubbish!!
for Konan_D

Nobody says "balance" or "same chance"
If you got this conclusion from my words, I may had to re-estimate your logic as someone else.
Besides, liuker is a very good player as RR who is stronger than most of the .com players (including me). He did not get the ring for not knowing the evaluation rules ,and maybe also for some luck issues.
anyway what is understand from Erathiaand other guys is, they try to tell evaluation rules give some what close(which few guys questioned) to fair result.if not some few faction will rule the show. lol but they trying to tell it with some complex way:P

but i wonder why red demons less result, since they are also best faction whether is thief or anti-thief battle type.
Nobody says "balance" or "same chance"
If you got this conclusion from my words, I may had to re-estimate your logic as someone else.

No dear I don't get this from ur words rather it is 1 of the core value of this game which I stated above.
Also get ur facts right
Besides, liuker is a very good player as RR who is stronger than most of the .com players (including me). He did not get the ring for not knowing the evaluation rules ,and maybe also for some luck issues.
As u don't know that RR haven't played it as carvan escort rather as a thief ;)

Another thing no calculation for reward is based on luck ;p such childish it sounds.

My point is there is no clarification regarding this rewarding which is disappointing & demoralizing.
My point is there is no clarification regarding this rewarding which is disappointing & demoralizing.
+1
but i wonder why red demons less result, since they are also best faction whether is thief or anti-thief battle type.

That probably bcoz elf & De eaten up more places due to the faulty nature of calculation & their results :D
i don't think so, most of them are not interested escort, they choose ambush them...:P
he he thts can b a valid 1 ;)
Yes, nobody knew it this time, but we know it now.
So at least we can consider more kinds of strategies for the next events, right?
The more we know about the ideas of admins, the better we can have a chance to succeed.
That's the value we talked about it, instead of 'complaining'.
This topic is long since last update and considered obsolete for further discussions.

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