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Authorpossible cheater
https://www.lordswm.com/pl_info.php?id=6906145

I've analyzed his recent battles and it seems that either he is INCREDIBLY lucky or somehow cheats

https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?lt=-1&warid=1560664724
https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?lt=-1&warid=1560669490
https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?lt=-1&warid=1560706733
https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?lt=-1&warid=1560659991
https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?lt=-1&warid=1560626665

he has only 3 luck, which means it's 30% chance to hit with a luck and the possibility should go lower as his units get lucky over and over again, but not for him.

Apart from that, special skills like stun/bear roar/fire wave is every second hit, I haven't seen something like this even on an elf with soldier's luck talent

I have played a fair amount of battles as Fire dwarf in CG (8 skill level), but I have never experienced this luck myself. Also, I have played a lot of battles in CG in general and I haven't seen anyone as lucky as this dwarf for more than 1-2 battles.
https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?lt=-1&warid=1560837125

again, around 75-80% of hits were lucky and with special creature skill
https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?lt=-1&warid=1560664724

rearguard ursary:
- 5 hits
- 3 luck
luck chance = 60% in this battle

https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?lt=-1&warid=1560669490

beastslayers:
- 12 hits
- 4 luck
luck chance = 33.3% in this battle

punishers:
- 10 hits
- 3 luck
luck chance = 30% in this battle

https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?lt=-1&warid=1560706733

rearguard ursary:
- 10 hits
- 4 luck
- 3 roar
luck chance = 40% in this battle

beastslayers:
- 10 hits
- 4 luck
- 3 stun
luck chance = 40% in this battle

https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?lt=-1&warid=1560859691
beastslayers:
- 21 hits
- 7 luck
- 6 stun
luck chance = 33.3% in this battle

lava dragons:
- 11 hits
- 4 luck
luck chance = 36.6% in this battle

punishers:
- 16 hits
- 6 luck
luck chance = 37.5% in this battle

https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?lt=-1&warid=1560659991

beastslayers:
- 6 hits
- 2 luck
- 2 stun
luck chance = 33.3% in this battle

punishers:
- 7 hits
- 2 luck
luck chance = 28.6% in this battle

https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?lt=-1&warid=1560626665
beastslayers:
- 5 hits
- 2 luck
- 3 stun
luck chance = 40% in this battle

https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?lt=-1&warid=1560837125
beastslayers:
- 10 hits
- 4 luck
- 3 stun
luck chance = 40% in this battle

rearguard ursary:
- 5 hits
- 2 luck
- 2 bear roar
luck chance = 40% in this battle


this player consistently has over 30% luck in multiple battles on main stacks + insane amount of luck when it comes to special creature skills
I haven't counted morale, which triggers like crazy for him as well, but it's hard to calculate that, sometimes he has more morale triggers than tribal with 5 morale, while he has 1.

I did not count stacks which did less than 5 hits in a battle
another battle, another insane percentage of luck

https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?lt=-1&warid=1560934714

beastslayers:
- 5 hits
- 2 luck
- 2 stun
luck chance = 40% in this battle

harpooners - 50% luck
rearguard ursary - 50% luck

also, luck almost never triggers on retaliation, only when he hits someone
https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?lt=-1&warid=1560941618

harpooners:
- 8 hits
- 3 luck
luck chance = 37.5% in this battle

beastslayers:
- 9 hits
- 3 luck
- 3 stun
luck chance = 33.3% in this battle

lava dragons:
- 6 hits
- 3 luck
luck chance = 50% in this battle
https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?lt=-1&warid=1561302924

lava dragons:
- 6 hits
- 3 luck
luck chance = 50% in this battle

harpooners:
- 6 hits
- 2 luck
luck chance = 30% in this battle
https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?lt=-1&warid=1561599233

punishers:
- 8 hits
- 3 luck
luck chance = 37.5% in this battle

harpooners:
- 6 hits
- 2 luck
luck chance = 33.3% in this battle

beastslayers:
- 5 hits
- 1 luck
luck only appeared when the stack was full, once it was destroyed (-40 units), luck magically stopped working

lava dragons:
- 8 hits
- 3 luck
luck chance = 37.5% in this battle
https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?lt=-1&warid=1561589658

beastslayers:
- 5 hits
- 2 luck
- 2 stun
luck chance = 40% in this battle

harpooners:
- 3 hits
- 2 luck
luck chance = 66.7% in this battle
https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?lt=-1&warid=1561577796

punishers:
- 7 hits
- 3 luck
luck chance = 42.8% in this battle

lava dragons:
- 5 hits
- 2 luck
luck chance = 40% in this battle

harpooners:
- 5 hits
- 2 luck
luck chance = 40% in this battle
luck only appeared when the stack was full, once it was destroyed (-40 units), luck magically stopped working

If this happens in most of the cases, then it might be a chance of hacking, else it's just how the game works.
it's not how the game works:

> The probability of morale/luck triggers = F^(1+[moves befallen so far]-[moves not befallen so far]*F/(1-F)), whence F is Min(0.5;luck/10) or Min(0.5;morale/10), each stack having its own independent counters for morale and luck.
In general, troops are befallen with morale/luck according to its normal probability. In case if it hasn't trigger for several consecutive turns, the odds of getting it on the next turn increase each time, and vice versa. In a hypothetical experiment with infinite amount of triggering, the general probability is still equal to 10% per morale/luck point.

https://www.lordswm.com/about-game-luck-and-morale

the situation when luck is >30% (for 3 luck) is quite normal for a couple of battles at most, when this happens consequtively for large amount of battles 0 it's cheating
harpooners:
- 5 hits
- 2 luck
luck chance = 40% in this battle

This is not how math works here , consider if you have 1 luck the probability increases with each successive move, with 1 luck the probability that luck triggers at least once in the first 5 moves is approximately 63%,you can't simply divide here 1/10 (the math is complex).
this is why I did not do the calculation for a single battle, but for multiple ones
I suggest you read up on the probability theory, then add something to this discussion
this is why I did not do the calculation for a single battle, but for multiple ones
Whatever bs calculation you have done is egregiously incorrect,i won't argue further.
closed by Beliar (2025-06-16 20:08:41)
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