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| Why there are only 4% of players playing demon faction are they bad? | The demon faction is not so popular because they are not so good in hunts/merq guild. I personally do find them very fun to play with in events/thieving and PVP. It all depends on what you like to play.
That's why most are probably elfs, they are amazing in PVE. With some skills demon might be good aswel in PVE ;) | for yoinkisis:
they are very good at higher level tactician guild aka commander guild and at watchers, but its bad and very slow for hunts and mg, people like to level up quick on the low levels, like the elf can | | its also slow for thief and not as good as dwarf with the runes and elf | | I mainly like pvp they good in that ? Im lvl 9 now they feel pretty good but what about lvl 14 ? | Demon gets stronger the higher CL you get. On higher levels a defensive darkdemon (with spells) counters almost every other faction. While red demon gets a lot of gated units or can be used as a mage. It really depends on what you like!
When I see a demon across me I know its gonna be a hard/long fight ) | for yoinkisis:
demons are solid in commander guild at a higher level, especially dd with spells. I win almost all my matches when I play that build. tempresses can control all living creatures, and they are certainly op because of that, unless they get killed immediately | | Oooh sounds good to me boiiis | As a demon main the road is fun but can be difficult.
Demon is a misunderstood faction, many people don't understand how to play it well and underestimate how powerful it can be. Red demon is challenging, DD takes much less skill but how effective it is depends on your match up.
Demon can be a very satisfying faction, when you outplay and embarrass your opponents or claw back a fight that has already pretty much been lost it's a great feeling.
Demon is fine for thief and watchers. There are other better factions for hunt and MG. | There is a lot of grind in this game with PvE.
This grind is lessened if you choose factions that are quick to play
While red demon can be used in a glass cannon type of way, the process of gating etc makes them slow to play with
Therefore they will be used primarily in PvP where they can be used effectively, and not so much in PvE. | In short: because its the weakest fraction of all time. A lvl 13 demon player is equal with lvl 11 any other player.
At lower lever the Hellfire ability can be useful, but it will be totally useless over lvl 8, just like any magic oriented tactic.
Demons have not much unit, so they use gates to call reinforcement. So at the begining you are in a dilemma that what will you do with Hellhounds? If you attack, they will die very quickly, if they use gate, then they will not survive in the next rounds because everyone attacks them.
If your hounds are over than you will have only 1 melee combat unit, these are the fast but very unarmoured Hellhorses. In the 2. round you will face with a hugely outnumbered enemy, 1 unit vs 2-3 enemy unit. You cannot win.
Scubi is not so fast, and if you are gating with them, then they will also die quickly.
You have some Pit Demon, they are the weakest lvl 6 creature. Slow with not much speed so you cannot use it as cavalry, useless in melee combat because they number and damage are insignificant, and they are not good as ranged units either, the fireball does not do much damage.
This fraction is also very bad at hunting, merchenary quests etc. But hey, if you have submissive fetish, you like humiliating, crying, frustration, lot of pain and if you wanna spend lot of time to restore your units again and again, then Red Demon is best choice for you! :)
Darkness Demon is a little bit better. With good tactic, you will have more success, but nothing special. The problem is the same: they cant looting. So in summary, i dont see any reason to play with this fraction, there are much better races who are good at pvp, looting and everything.
Dont play with Demons, choose the light side :) | | What factions would you recommend? | demons have a low pickrate because they clear pve very slowly due to gating being a slow mechanic itself (which is also why elves have by far the highest pick rate because theyre the best in pve); the thing is they arent even bad in pve lol because of gating they are actually pretty strong in it, it just takes forever which no one likes.
Also I don't know where the others are coming from, but at higher levels (17+) demons are mediocre at best according to https://daily.heroeswm.ru/gt/balance/lvl/17; knights, necromancer, dwarfs and some barbarian variants seem to be the best at pvp according to that statistic. the factions are generally best at balance at lower levels though. In any way you shouldn't play demons because they are supposedly strong or weak in pvp but because they are fun to play for you.
And while you say you don't really care about pve, you have to consider that your character will lack parameters if you dont hunt or do mercenary quests or do thieves guild. But I would say just go all in on the hounds, imps, succubi, horses and full attack parameters and talents and just immediately attack without gating first for the quickest pve with demons (though it's weak to play like that so you can't do that against harder enemies).
Honestly if the demon faction is fun for you just stick to them^^ just keep in mind with your decision that pve is going to be a bit of a struggle though | @yoinkisis
Depends on your style and purposes.
Knight is my personal favourite. If you like very massive units, defensive game style, to use many tactics, then choose them.
Barbarians are also very good. You will have 3 different alternate fraction, 100% attack oriented race (except shadow barbs), high luck, high attack, etc, huge damages.
Elves are masters of archery. The bowmen and upgraded druid combo are very destructive, they have an advantage over most of enemies, especially at lower and middle level.
These are the holy triumvirate, best of best, good at looting, pvp and everything.
Dont choose Demons or Tribal barbs, these are the weakest, totally useless. | | @Scylluadarkhope is battle magic good? | @yoinkisis
I dont really use spells, i prefer combat talents over magic by far. Im playing with combat talents even if im Holy Knight.
Holy and Dark Magic are not bad. I think Dark Magic is better because of Confusion. This spell can be very brutal at expert level.
Basic Nature Magic is also useful if you wanna some help during battles. Wasp swarm, Summon phantom are excellent, and you need only 2-3 knowledge. Basic level is enough, no need to choose higher levels, of course except if youre a necro.
Chaos Magic is sucks, makes no sense to choose it, just if youre Fire Dwarf at lower level, but otherwise forget it :) | for greenywo7:
its because no one on our level almost plays darkness magic darkness demon, which is a lot stronger than taking a couple of morale talents. I won 9 out of my last 11 matches in 2v2, when other factions are a bit more losses than half, like normal barb or dark elf mage )lots of dwarfs on lvl 22) | | also somehow lots of barbs classic on lvl 22, so de mage isnt the strongest at my level, which I used to play a lot. also couple of normal knights, some bw wizards sometimes and a dd with morale talents. I dont see other builds in general, only one other person playing every faction, and a tde with beastmastery and he sometimes plays classic necro, but classic necro aint as strong on level 22, 20 and under is a good level for necro. |
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