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for unnamedlord:

May I ask what is the purpose of your thread? If it is to propose your idea of reducing the cost of talents, then I'm sorry as sry as already pointed out, it IS a forbidden topic.

So what if necro defensive talents cost 11 points? Even at that price, it is a popular choice among necros, an obvious indication that it is still worth the cost. Besides, no one is forcing you to take those talents.

if every factions talents get cheaper,there wont be any difference.and player can be more powerful in hunts,thieves guild and more

How about every faction get their troop recruitment size multiplied by 10? As everyone gets equal increase in army, there also won't be any difference. Do you think it's a great idea then?
the problem with defence talent cost is that right now its not possible to get Concetration talent even on level 15(unless level 16 becomes availble)

question is why they put it? they could just remove it when no one can get it...
for Atheros:
It's so people know that there is such an option for the future. Better to know what is planned (if they ever remove the current system of allowing you to change talents) then to be stuck when new things are added

And Concentration is there because the Defence talent tree has it. Just because it costs too much for a Necro doesn't mean other factions with the Defence talent tree can't use it.
for Atheros:
This is because the admins are still tweaking the talent points. Also just because there is no level 16 now doesn't mean there won't be. Admins have introduced higher combat levels, new buildings, new arts, added to guild tables, new creatures, and more. In several years we might even see level 20 added.
For take sister

And Concentration is there because the Defence talent tree has it. Just because it costs too much for a Necro doesn't mean other factions with the Defence talent tree can't use it.

Elves dont have emphaty but it is on the morale tree,wizards dont have withstand but it is on the sorcery tree and more...
You should find a better explanation.
Elves dont have emphaty but it is on the morale tree,wizards dont have withstand but it is on the sorcery tree and more...
You should find a better explanation.

Ok, so maybe Necromancers should have their Concentration talent removed as well.
Yes it wont be a problem,because it is useless,only barbarians can use it
for unnamedlord:
Doesn't mean that the level 17 and above (those that are going to go for that high a level in the future) Necros can't plan to use it.

It's not about it being useless now. It's about it being for the future, when Vamp Counts can kill Shrews before they hit them
if there would be a level 17,is it easy to get there?even in russian server there is only 16 and it is almost impossible to reach it,and you say 17 to me?this is just a dream
Elves dont have emphaty but it is on the morale tree,wizards dont have withstand but it is on the sorcery tree and more...
You should find a better explanation.


you JUST CANT read... it is for balance purpose.

a part from it, some talents are ONLY available for some factions to create the unique style in game play.

you are not in HoMM: you cant get unlimited troops, you cant get super powerful artifacts, and many more. hence, the talent setting will never be same.

concentration is in defense talent for nerco; but it doesnt mean you were allowed to take it in lv8 or 9 or 10 or even earlier. imagine what if necro can get massive defense talent and grab dark/nature spells together in combat?

question is why they put it? they could just remove it when no one can get it...

similar topic had been discuss regarding the warlock luck in DE luck talent. after the discussion, almost all players accept the reason: it might be useless for now BUT It's about it being for the future
Topic moved from "Ideas and suggestions" to "General game forum".
Knight was the best function for talent sector, knight average talent cost per talent sector is lower than any other function, DE was the one whose average is high.
@32. It's not about the raw cost and comparing, it's about game balance.
@32. It's not about the raw cost and comparing, it's about game balance. is it really balanced ???
is it really balanced ???
Yes it isa.
even in russian server there is only 16 and it is almost impossible to reach it

There are already 6 players elligible for lvl 16 in this server :)

Anyway, again, talent system is being tested by now, and thus, you should expect some changes in it... One day... As it already happened in the past, for balance purposes.
I see no problem with talents, this is very well balanced, and works for everyone...

About optinal creature, all this creatures, frenezing grifs, crusaders, rangers, etc.

They all are more strong than second upgrade, and got more boost than this.. so this should be a trird upgrade, but i really don't like this idea.
even in russian server there is only 16 and it is almost impossible to reach it

i just wonder which server are you in now? tell me...

so, who the hell care on RU server? you can always join RU server if you so desperate for it. we never lack on baggers (especially those player from RU server join COM server) who always complain on COM server


Knight was the best function for talent sector, knight average talent cost per talent sector is lower than any other function

i wont say it is best, but i do agree knight has wide area in talent to choose AND apply in different situation. hence, it also mean knight isnt easy to master with.

DE was the one whose average is high.

somehow, it doesnt mean DE is bad even talent cost isnt cheap. we all can see alot DE can play well in this server.
There are already 6 players elligible for lvl 16 in this server :)

7 actually ^^

Yes, everything is balanced and still balancing is going on.....
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