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Together with IComeInPeace we had a test run for piercing luck.
https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?lt=-1&warid=898273323
Results showed that fortune wheel increased damage (so piercing luck effect was increased with luck) and that it's not capped at 5.
If I sum all up:
Retribution:
- does not decrease damage with negative morale
- increase damage with temporary morale modifiers
- effect is capped at 5 morale
Piercing luck:
- effect is increased with temporary modifiers
- effect is not capped at 5 luck | | And what about extensive gating talent? Are the summoned troops caped at 100% from summoning stack? | | As far as I know extensive gating adds a % not to the gating stack but to the gated stack. You need fl 13 and 6 luck to be able to theoretically gate more than 100%, otherwise you would need 8 luck and fl 12 if I got it right. | | You could probably test that with RR since he has demon 13 | for Slust:
no, it is additive, with 4 luck you can already summon more than 100% troops.
the question is whether it depend on hero's luck or creature's. I believe it depends on hero's luck since gating is a hero ability, therefore temporary effects doesn't affect. | no, it is additive, with 4 luck you can already summon more than 100% troops.
the question is whether it depend on hero's luck or creature's. I believe it depends on hero's luck since gating is a hero ability, therefore temporary effects doesn't affect.
I draw this back, it is wrong. Slust is right, and it works for luck above 5.
testing battle:
https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?warid=898302861
https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?warid=898302928
maybe something has changed, I still believe that I had seen some battle which gated units were more than the original one. now this talent is totally useless, 21.6% more gated units is too weak compare with its enormously cost. | I though it is additive from gating stack, thus with +4 luck you would have +30% bonus, but it seems Slust was right and the effect is smaller. :(
Well, I agree with RR, so many talent points are not worthy for such small efect and for those with low FSL not at all...
+4 luck bonus to gated troops
fsl13 - 21,6%
fsl12 - 20,4%
fsl11 - 19,2%
fsl10 - 18,0%
fsl9 - 16,8%
fsl8 - 15,6%
At least I learned something new :) | maybe something has changed, I still believe that I had seen some battle which gated units were more than the original one.
Demonic set with extensive gating perhaps? It's been like that for years, first thing I checked when playing demon is if I could make up for low fl with extensive gating. Anyway you already gated more spawns than you had. |
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