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All Lords & Ladies of factions Elves, Dark Elves and Wizzards have to pass by now all the hunts, they killed with hit & run, for ever?

hmmmm this is a bit lol^^

So it changed nevertheless a lot for all those. Well i think they need to reset not only the Top Hunters list. They need to reset also the personal hunt records. Else it would be a bad situation. Never again hunt goblins, farmers and many more.....damit. :(

Why they didnt just add new monsters with a higher "I.Q". It's always problematic here, when you make big changes of old stuff....
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i agree to reset the top hunting list. especially the color dot indicator. it becomes meaningless and most of time misleading.

the color dot indicator is base on the hunting record, mostly under old AI. when you see a white or green dot, you may wear min or less ap to fight, but actually even if you wear full art you may not be able to win under the new AI.
the color dot indicator is base on the hunting record, mostly under old AI. when you see a white or green dot, you may wear min or less ap to fight, but actually even if you wear full art you may not be able to win under the new AI.

I agree. It used to be very useful when I started out playing this game, and used to give a fair indication of the hunt's difficulty. Now, I don't even bother looking at it cuz it's... well, misleading. :)

Maybe you could post it under I&Q, and the admins might look at it, and do something about it.. one day? :)
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Maybe you could post it under I&S, and the admins might look at it, and do something about it.. one day? :)
I agree. It used to be very useful when I started out playing this game, and used to give a fair indication of the hunt's difficulty. Now, I don't even bother looking at it cuz it's... well, misleading. :)

I agree except I just needed to change my perception of the indicator. I used to be able to do red! in min arts, then every 6 months or so, I would change that down. Now if I see green, I have to skip it because green automatically means not doable in min arts. In fact I also lose a lot of white hunts now. Now if only a new indicator is put in like half white circle for below white.
They need to reset also the personal hunt records. Else it would be a bad situation. Never again hunt goblins, farmers and many more.....damit. :(

Sorry, why should they? You did already earn your HG, gold, FPS, EXP and workaholic penalty for them and now you want to do it again?

What about thoese that didn't hunt them yet? Can they also hunt them twice?
I do not agree with the general feeling here that hunt records won't be beaten anymore. That's not true because players become more powerful month after month (better skills, better arts). Furthermore, competition to be "top hunters" is quite low on our server, some players that don't play anymore for a long time are still in top hunters list.

So IMHO even with this new AI many many top records are still beatable.

Just my two cents ^^
Sorry, why should they? You did already earn your HG, gold, FPS, EXP and workaholic penalty for them and now you want to do it again?

What about thoese that didn't hunt them yet? Can they also hunt them twice?


well you are right and wrong. it was a really bad change. it was just unfair for knights and necros, etc. before the update. and now DE and elves, etc. cant hunt anymore swordmen, golems, farmers, goblins, zombies, skeles, and many more. because its just too hard now. this is boring. DE need to pass by now so often.

I do not agree with the general feeling here that hunt records won't be beaten anymore.

sorry but you are absolutly wrong :) you may be right for the top record. but we are also talking about for example lvl 11, 10, 9,.. records. they cant be beaten, thats a fact.


well i dont understand why they make such big changes every month. i think they dont really have a good concept. what's absolutly wondering me because all they have to do is to copy .ru^^

crazy changes for new players:
1. most of the hunt records cant be beaten.
2. TGI is not rechable for new players like it was in past.
3. enchents costs triple costs now.

i think they just systematicly discourage new players and give adventages to the old ones. look at russian servers: they have 15'000 users everyday. here, the rest of the world has in maximum 1'500. its a pitty. but its a result of that changes.

well maybe point 2. and 3. is a kind of fundraising :)
I totally agree with #48
yeah..since AI improved i lost many *green circle* battles against big count of low lvl creatures..next time i'll call for assist,really tired to become dead against 5 packs of creatures
Just business

More dificulty more equipement
More equipement more diamond
That all
for Netabenna:
I think diamonds are purchased most for getting higher tier creatures and upgrades at lower levels and thieve invitations, not for money.
And with best & full equipment, some records are simply unbeatable.

Also, the increase of creatures' IQ is to let us try more logical ways to kill the monsters. This is a good thing, but our new tactics can't be compared with the old ones. This is why it'd be better if the records are reset (and maybe old records shouldn't be necessary kept, I think the achievements are enough).

However, I don't understand people that are ok with the idea of these unbeatable records because it's not so tragic or because if they're reset we will have more records which will make them less special - but I'd surely prefer less special beatable records than special unbeatable records.
...and for some of these hunt records, the AI needs to be smarter. My hunt colour was brought down just because of a lucky rock formation...
https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?lt=-1&warid=26788535
you still have the new creatures available for hunt records... and new creatures appear every day.
@Redh

sorry but you are absolutly wrong :) you may be right for the top record. but we are also talking about for example lvl 11, 10, 9,.. records. they cant be beaten, thats a fact.

For the top records, they are still beatable, for example I took the one on golems after the AI change and I'm sure someone else will do better. About mid level records, I cannot believe that for example again the one made by Kiaune at level 10 with MH set on farmer is not beatable :)

Making hunt record is not an easy task and required equipment is very costly but it's still possible IMHO.
There are Just business

When the records become unbeatable even in theory the dimonds will not help, and the business will stop.

So I hope, that this will not a definitive changes to AI. And administration will understand in the near future that this a very bad marketing course. Else, personally for me, as a hunter-wizard recordsmen, this server will dead and I'll must change faction, stop making records or stop playing at all. All variants aren't good(((.

Still with hope for prudence of administration.
@ Redh
Making hunt record is not an easy task and required equipment is very costly but it's still possible IMHO.

Its all about the arts and tactics...well lets be honest...its more about the arts LOL!

Every record can be beaten,even kisko titan record will fall someday,some DE with better arts will get 2 stacks and win..its simple ^^

The most important thing is to get used to the new AI.
my mistake

@ Redh

You can be sarcastic if you like to, but being sarcastic doest not help to make hunt records. Observing, analyzing and experiencing is much better.

I think statement of post 3 Goodbye Hit-n-run =) is a bit too "strong". Following my experiences hit-n-run is not completely dead, at least on undead and mechanical (cf my combat log). Hit-n-run has been nerfed that's true, but players have now access to better arts like beastbane arts.
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