| Author | Wild_shooter |
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look at this guys faction rank laborer rank and hunter rank i give huge congrats to wild_shooter
http://www.heroeswm.com/pl_info.php?id=4363896 |
He has lost much more battles than he won:
Victories: 295
Defeats: 380
Just look at his combat log :)
He looses battles intentionally.
Yes, he is level 5 Wizard, but anyone can reach even level 9 in all factions by just 100% loosing battles being even combat level 1 (the game really needs to be improved to prevent such absurd).
So, no brains needed at all for that.
And it is not any achievement at all.
Conclusion: he is the biggest level 2 loser.
This post was posted in the wrong section "Gratitudes and congratulations". There should be a new section called "Pure losers". That would a true place for him, not here.
He is also high level hunter. The game is made very bad: the more powerful monsters you kill the weaker hunter you become!
Why?
Because if you want to be high level hunter then you must always hunt only the most weak monsters and the smallest quantity of them, because then you will get only a little combat experience and BIG amount of hunt skill.
No logic at all here. It is just a bug in game from my point of view.
And wild_shooter uses this bug as much as he can.
Again, nothing to be proud of. |
i think its ok. if HE wants to sit in front of his pc all day, for the next 2 years, LET him^^.
wonder if a quest/guild/tournament will be implemented, where only strong fighters (say 4/1 win-loss ratio) will be allowed. then he can play another 5 years, making hunt assists. XD |
[Post deleted by moderator FaithBringer // Please don't call names]
[Player banned by moderator FaithBringer until 2008-09-17 21:25:06 // Calling names.] |
Jealous? No!
Read my post here
http://www.heroeswm.com/forum_messages.php?tid=1835724
and you will understand why I'm not jealous at all :)
Also check for level 6 hunters list :) |
Robai:
Why are you striking him down like that? Why is his method of playing worse than yours? Is there anything is the rules that states that we must win all the time?
If he's having fun playing that way, then kudos for him for doing what he wants, and not what everyone else does just because it's deemed "normal".
And so what if he's taking his time to build up faction levels? If the next tournament encompasses his combat level, who do you think has more chances of winning, and gaining free diamonds?
You seem awfully worried about your hunt records. Do you hear anyone calling you a looser because you worry about that crap?
I extend my congratulations to wild_shooter. Good luck on your quest =) |
it's just his style of playing, or maybe his goal is to be low combat and high race.
But the hard work and patience he put in is really a lot. >.< |
| If i had to choose lvl be lvl 5 with lvl 9 racial or lvl 9 with lvl 5 racial then im sure i would choose to be lvl 9 with 5 racial no doubt abt it :) |
well,
if he finally gets to lvl 3, he can build some mean mini arts, especially since he has a load of cash now.
kudo's for his way of playing |
| looser, he will wizard 7 on lvl 3 or what?)) thats stupid))) (i know what i say) :-P |
There's a level 5 wisard with triple minifull on .ru - a formidable opponent indeed, he has won the tournament on his level.
wild_shooter is doing a lot of hard work - how does that make him a loser? Some people lack patience, time, or are simply uninterested in improving their faction skill - it's their choice. Others prefer gaining skill points rather than xp. There's no right or wrong here, and there's certanly no reason to throw insults.
I have a lvl 8 char with faction skill 6. Because of the tournament and thief event I pretty much skipped lvl 7. How I wish I could go back to being lvl 6... |
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I'm not striking him. I'm sure he gets pleasure playing this game in his style. But I'm not congratulating him, because losing battles intentionally isn't honorable thing at all. And I don't understand why people are congratulating him. They all can lose battles intentionally and be as powerful as he is.
I very doubt that he will participate in tournament, because it will cost him too much experience (even players with diamonds have no chance vs him), maybe later he will show up.
My point:
1) Losing battles intentionally is very dishonorable and shouldn’t be congratulated.
2) Using bugs of the game is also dishonorable.
My records? Many of my records are already beaten. I'm sure that after several months I will have no records at all. So, there is nothing to worry about.
Actually I wanted to say that this game must be improved, because there are paradoxes:
1) The more battle experience you get the more weak you become!
2) The more battles you lose the more powerful you become!
3) And if you lose most battles intentionally you get congratulations!
4) Only players who hunt only the weakest monsters are the most powerful hunters!
There are players, I'm proud of:
Uraken - impressed me with his strategy vs Druids.
Derryk - that is honorable "cheater" :) I'm impressed with his about +100% damage in all, which he used against Zombies, Infected Zombies and Golems (that records will stand for long).
Specter - the best real time strategist I ever seen, he is the best Necromancer-Hunter (he is undead, but somehow he still has genius brains in his skeleton head :) )
ru_medved - that is a true bear (medved), I'm trying to avoid him, but I had to kill rebels, who were hiding near him. He impressed me when a big army of Hobgoblins didn’t return when they once tried to hunt this bear. :)
... and many more honorable players.
But I'm not proud of these players:
- players with diamonds (sort of cheating, but at least they are not congratulated).
- wild_shooter (pure cheater, the most powerful player, but also the best loser (at least for now) and most players are proud of him).
Actually I congratulate wild_shooter, because despite his pure cheating most players are proud of him. |
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Ok, I will prove you that I'm not insulting wild_shooter here.
Definition 1. If a player lost more battles than he won then he is called loser. (Agreed?)
Definition 2. If a difference between number of lost battles and number of won battles is the biggest in his level then that player is called biggest loser. (Agreed?)
Theorem 1. wild_shooter is the biggest loser.
Proof.
By definition 2, wild_shooter is the biggest loser (unless there is a level 2 player who lost even more battles then he, but I doubt that).
End proof.
Theorem 2. I'm not insulting wild_shooter.
Proof.
Stating a fact is not an insult.
End proof. |
as long as he is not intentionally losing from players, that is his choice s to how to spent his gaming time.
if he is going to lose intentionallt from players, he is ruining hteir game experience and i will not think that is fair to others |
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Nice theorem Robai :P . Very precice and straight to the point. Hopefully noone is going to try to disclaim your statements now. |
You make a solid argument Robai, and I apologize if I misread your interpretation of the word Loser. I saw it not as a fact, but as an insult.
However, you are wrong in calling him a cheater. He is not cheating, nor taking advantage of any "bug" in the game. He is not going against any official rule, unofficial rule, or gameplay rule.
The gameplay strategy as been implemented for months now, both on this server and on .ru, and not even once has the administration made any intent of changing it. This is the game mechanic period. It's weird, counter-intuitive and excessively complicated, and you are completely within your right to criticise it. I agree completely with you on that point. But it is NOT cheating.
Whenever a new player asks for tips, the first thing people say is "hunt a lot while you're level 2, to take advantage of the short time betweeen hunts". He just took it a step further.
=) |
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Ok, it is not cheating in official way.
But it is cheating from my point of view.
And we need a proper definition of cheating.
My definition of cheating is similar to this one (you might have other definition, let me know):
Definition 3.
Cheating characteristically is employed to create an unfair advantage, usually in one's own interest, and often at the expense of others.
This is taken from here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheating
We can make another definition:
Definition 4. A player is called official cheater if he break the rules.
So, he is not an official cheater.
Maybe cheater is not a proper word for him. Any suggestions?
BTW, why don't you all just start losing all battles from now on?
Don't want to be losers?
You will not be cheaters (at least, officially).
So, rise your faction skill fast, go go go, lose lose lose :) |
for Robai:
Just one thing..
You are ELF.. elfs rule on 5-8 and even later.. What do they need for this? Nothing except arifacts..
But wizards just to have some chances need mini-artifacts.. For this requires high racial skill nd crazy amounts of gold..
You just can't understand how difficult life of wizards is.. you kust can't have enough patience as we - wizards |
I agree with yuan Wild_shooter MUST be really patient
i am happy for wild_Shooter so what if you lose?
you get skill points
at least you dont be a sore loser and run away
grats wild_shooter keep up the good work |
wow, two more fans - keep losing if you like :)
Be patient, lose always and some day you will be winners!
18, I think that wizards need mini arts just to survive longer.
High faction level Wizard's army does 10% (or even less) of damage, 90% damage hero does.
Elf really needs high faction’s level if they want to be good hunters, because of critical hits. In PvP battles Elves are one of the weakest factions at high combat level.
Can't understand? I'm level 2 wizard :) |
