Author | Barbarians faction topic |
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i like barbarians the most out of all factions ived played although they are hirrible if u dont know how to play them |
I love them ) The only ones, who can smash the elves at lvl 3-4 ) |
Ok, then the fact for me is that this faction has strong attack, but lack of defence ... medium initiative ... but i really respect this faction .. can do great damages, especially ogres, orcs and wolfriders ... but for my bowmen wolfriders and orcs are nothing ... so ogres are the best here .. i always in high spirit against ogres ... match to my swordsmen ...
best regards,
Randhy |
wolves are fat. they often stuck becouse of one monster stacks. |
I do have a question about one of the barbarian's talents... at level 10, barbs are able to choose concentration. does this talent really work how i understand it, and give unlimited retaliation to all troops, including retal against "no retaliation"-troops, but only if the troops defend (i.e., skipped their turn for +30% defense)?
That's how i'd understand the description:
Hero's defending stacks always retaliate the attackers (even if those have "No Retaliation" ability), anticipating that attack. [...] (there are no unlimited retal troops for barb).
perhaps someone playing on the .ru server or an admin/mod could answer that... |
To bobsrevenge999:
Barbs dont really kill them, it depends... If you hit the forest keeper first with your wolf, You win, If forest keeper hits your wolf first, Your dead |
i find its so hard to do hunts with barb
~.~ been hunting with demon and mostly with my necro
now i tried with barb, its way harder
once the little troops i have died i'm dead |
to Musculus:
Well.. concentration can be learned by knights aswell.
Effect on Barbs and Knights: retaliate shrews/hydras/cerberi/sphinx, well everything that has the 'No retaliation' ability (so dark elfs are quite useless vs knight or barbs on level 10+) if you defend.
Additional Bonus to knights: griffins have retaliate before enemy attack and after the enemy attack (which is very handy) and still have the unlimited retaliation ability if they defend. |
"if you defend" is the part i was not sure about, because technically, any troop that gets attacked is "defending", but that would make that talent really, really imbalanced. i just wanted to make sure so i can plan a little for lvl 10 talents, even though it will still take me some time to get there ;) |
knight need more than lv 10 to learn the talent concentration... if i not wrong knight need lv 15 only enough point to learn concentration. but for BB lv 10 can learn already.
Anyway if knight learn concentration, knight will be a god caused knight troop is more for defend...undefeated by only defend their bowman and monk. (this is my opinion), may be wizard can kill them ...
For the concretration, i just got few thing not very sure. is it got spear hit ability creature like hydras we can retaliation? or just for "no retaliation" ability creature?
For Musculus
u are no 2 top BB player, when u reach lv 10 i hope u can try learn the concretation talent and share the exp to us... |
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i think 'defend' here refers to using 'defend' button instead of attacking...that would be more logic, instead of every unit that's being attacked get the unlimited retaliation.. |
Anybody can tell me how exactly bloodlust works? I'm trying to figure out how exactly it is pumped up. I had a recent battle in which my orcs unknowingly pumped up and bloodlusted till +19 attack lols. :) |
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thats impossible, not plus 19 attack, until 19 attack. The max bloodlust/rage is double your combat level. |
http://www.heroeswm.com/warlog.php?warid=471872450
Refer to the address given above. I'm not kidding pal.
Check my orcs' stats just when the last lich is being killed...it shows attack +19!!!~
i just double checked it again :) |
Oh yeah, kindly watch the whole battle from the start and check it near the end...its really there!!!~ :D |
"# Bloodlust:
Attack parameter of this creature increases every time any enemy stack perishes completely. The effect is calculated as 1.3*(basic attack of the perished stack without hero bonuses)*(strength of the perished stack)/(strength of all army of that hero). The effect cannot be lower than 1. Strength is an unrevealed parameter. Creatures acquire bloodlust for the rest of the combat, bloodlust effects stack up."
@Xerfer: Rage has a maximum as you had described it but as you can see no maximum for bloodlust. (I had the same thought, quite tough!) |
Wow, your right! That's amazing, there is no bloodlust limit- awesome. That has got to be a lot at the end of a level 13 3vs3 battle!! |
you actually think orcs will last long in a lvl 13 3v3 battle? ^.^ |
luckily orcs cant get bloodlust from gated unit ^^ |