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| oh noes, stop crying |
Barnabas, I believe Kusika beats you in racial...
Of course, I know. I said I'm better than Kusika or have better racial then him? |
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| I wasnt advising you barnabas i was advising the person who started the thread. Ego much? |
I'd say, me too. I didn't earn anything in last days more to the contrary...
On .ru server there is only 8% wizard from all fractions(same rules like here now) and here? After few weeks it'll be same. I don't want to change fraction, I'm too old wizard to teach new things :o)
Wizards will be under powered in PVP All the new arts now have magic resistence! |
I wasnt advising you barnabas i was advising the person who started the thread. Ego much?
Are you sure? And what about your post number 14 :o)
You were answering me, everybody can see it... |
Yes because u asked if wizard was weaker than before and I answered no, because of what i had said before.
Since ur so great and already know everything why did u even ask? lol |
Well I can understand what the wizards mean.
The new rules really make it hard to earn any profit with hunting or such.I think the rule should count for PvP merc. and such but not for hunts. |
Or for hunts and not hunt assists. We've been through this a billion times. Admins aren't going to change the rules, so what's the point?
I think wizards were massively overpowered before- I think triple arts on everything is kinda sick, and that the bonus damage wizards get from spells on hunts and quests alone is a heck of a racial ability even without mini-arts. I think that people who are more into PVP than into hunts and quests probably shouldn't be wizards any more, and it kinda screwed people who mainly went into Wizard for PVP. But it did have to get fixed someday.
Meanwhile, you have a Wizard with far more cash and racial level than the wizards coming up. You're going to be the second most powerful Wizard in the game for a long time. Why not think of it that way, instead of going "woe is me"? |
As a wizard I already have a huge price to pay for mini-arts - and now I cannot even save cash with solo hunts.
good news for others then :P |
Wow - I guess this is the 'motherlode' - and there are aspects here I had not got into yet.
My own experience on this is that when I started the game I did so accepting that weizards are a very difficult starter race. Basically both elves beat the pants off us -and most everyone else if they use their range and speed advantages etc sensibly.
It goes like this: hey lookee - I got 15 gremmies ... they can shoot - well i did have 15 gremies now I got gremmie squash and they did not shoot once - remember?
In the early stages wiz bonus re magic is largely irrelevant as our troops just get slaughtered too quickly unless we are exceptional players.
Look at elves - they get a great luck/speed boost and can combine that with the hated enemy - formidable too ... other races have other things.
Wizards have to pay more for mini arts - so they have a LOT less cash for artis - it's a balance that gradually moves more into the wizard's favour - but it is still tough for wizards to win in both pvp and hunts.
What non-wizards usually see of wizard hunts is what happens when wizards have a bit of back-up - combine wiz magic with other race's creatures and it can be devestating - so can an elf's luck etc.
But No other race has to pay gold for their racial bonuses. We all know that.
What happens now is that wizards will get hit on mini-arts (wiz racial bonus for underpowered troops) artis and building. Now my feeling at this point is not only that this is too far out of balance - something more fundamental has happened here. The basis and focus for wizard play has been removed.
Previously wizards could build their resources up bit-by-bit with a reasonable expectation of a reward at the end of the tunnel for their underpowered existance - not any more.
If the devs had wanted to balance wizard strength at the upper levels that is where the focus of such rebalancing should have taken place. But at the lower levels, believe you me, most wizards lose more often than they win in pvp.
Given that, I suspect that the devs just overlooked wizards when they made these changes ... or did not care :(
And Straws I think you have missed the point - if you are a good player then you do not need others to have a handicap. The reason I started this thread is that it appears that it is not only game balance has been seriously compromised - for wizards game enjoyment and focus has been hit too.
What I recommend is that wizards be given a hunt-reward bonus to rectify this. You might consider adding in a cash % for other players that assist wizards in their hunts also.
all the best,
raggidman
by the way - it appears that this thread which is about the game has been moved to the wrong forum ... ;) |
i see that raggidman understand very very xell the situation of wizard
wizard race is dead |
for raggidman:
Previously wizards could build their resources up bit-by-bit with a reasonable expectation of a reward at the end of the tunnel for their underpowered existance - not any more.
You can still enroll if you want to gain cash. Hunts and quests are optional. Maybe the developers didn't intend the wizard faction for impatient players who attack everything in sight... |
man, I think to be a Wizards is expensive .. and that is the PRICE u should pay .. May be try DE or Necros .. they are Cheap ... Knights I think are the MOST EXPENSIVE, then ELVES and Wizards ...
Even Demons, DE, NEcros and Barbars do not need any building to get their racial abilities ...
Best regards,
Randhy |
| I might be a Knight but i can understand the probs the wizard race is facing and i have only one solution it is to start a bank a bank from the wiz,to the wiz,for the wiz what do you say? |
sounds like fun kuramathefox - only wish wizards had money to save. we have to build to keep up.
all races should be fun to play - maybe it would be better if wizards were totally out of the game - a sad loss, but unless there are more changes in the pipeline? |
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That's just silly...I'm a wizard, I'm perfectly happy being a wizard, and I don't think the rules affect wizards as much as people think. Generally, all the money you lost from wearing arts needlessly is less than the difference between putting a double and putting a triple mini-art on your gargs.
No, I don't want wizards to vanish. If you don't want to play a Wizard, then start over with a new character or change factions. It's easy to change with Wizards, since you get 90% of your money back on minis, which allows you to buy the new buildings. |
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About mini-arts: most wizards can't afford "triple mini-arts on everything":
take a look at the 8 wizards in the top 100 (not counting kusika):
one has none
one has none, could afford one set
two have 11 on genies
one has 30 on gargs
three have 2 sets of triple mini-arts
one has three sets
(I didn't check for diamond purchase)
And they obtained those before the rule change.
It would make sense to include mini-arts when you calculate the AP value: they are arts after all. |
| yes it is a good suggestion to count mini arts in AP |
