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I started a topic (https://www.lordswm.com/forum_messages.php?tid=1857241)to bring to admin and other players attention the use of dictators names as character nickname, 'couse I think in every social activity we are responsible for any kind of message we contribute to diffuse, as part of ideas and behavior formation, even more if this social ambient is frequented by young people. Now, left apart the answer of Lik who probably think I am not able to read (:D), the topic has been closed impeding further discussion by an admin in whose profile I found these sentence:
"Baron's Theorem
Hate is good. This is because conflict drives the formation of social bonds and thus of communities. It is an engine that brings players closer together."
These is absolutely wrong, even for the scholar of social conflict as Simmel, and I find it extremely unhappy to state such stupid incorrect affirmation and, principally, completely misleading to positive social convivial.
And here we come to my answer: do all administrators agree with the way this topic has been dealt with?
if the answer is yes, I will educately leave the game, you can imagine why
thanks | | no i don't think so | And here we come to my answer
i think u wanted to say:
And here we come to my Question | | Yes Pentagon, I wrote wrong, thanks :) | The CaA forums is only to report people who abuse the rules and is not a place for discussion (local forum rules).
I read your original post and agree with you that these names are insulting but anyone using your thread to post comments would receive a forum ban so maybe you should try again in a more appropriate forum? | | like this one? I mean, I was complaining about what I consider offensive behavior (name character with historically deeply deprecate names), and there is no other place to complain, so I reported there because I think this is a case that could be understood as an offense. Sorry about that | I agree with you that action should be taken about people with names which others find insulting and hope admins will look again at the people you posted (the first person you named has already been banned for other reasons).
I was just saying that discussions about it should be in other forums, like here.
Though I also applaud the admins for the actions which are now being seen to be taken against cheats and people who abuse the rules. There is however, as we all know, a backlog of players to get through and while some may be missed it is still good to know that they are being actively looked at and we need to give admins a chance to catch up with all of them.
Maybe one of the forum mods will consider re-opening your post in CaA so it can be dealt with. | dear DeathisNear (Brrrrrr!!! :D)
I am not willing to judge as negative or insufficient the work of administrators, I know they are overwhelmed by cheating reports, Is enough to have a look at the quantity of problems dealt with every day (for a general picture of the situation the topic "cheaters everywhere can help :D) to state that they are doing a good job. I just was shocked by the fact that to stop that discussion was a person which states that on his profile (not to say about what he think about the administrator work, but this is his own business), I found it extremely disturbing, even for the fact that no answer has been given (apart from lik's answer, but let's live him to his own :D)> Well, I hope there be the chance to confront ourselves about the central matter: are that player going to stay? | i know a guy whose first name is Stalin.
and i guess there are some Hitlers, Mussolinis etc. around.
so, they might find this whole thread (and your previous one) much more offensive, than you find their names are :D
btw, what is so offensive about their names anyway? joy division (band) who are politically left oriented, are named after some nazi experiment. you can never tell what someone had in mind when they chose their nicknames.
as for mod closing your thread, well why don't you ask him why he did it? maybe he had a good reason to do it. | HI Korzika, I don't think anybody use his own name here, so your argument is pretestuous, And I am convinced they wouldn't find this tread offensive, and probably agree with it (do you?). If you think there is nothing wrong in using name as Hilter mussolini stalin of Bocassa as a war game character, well, this is your opinion and I respect it, but I am convinced that the great majority of people wouldn't, at list I hope so.
Regarding the "for mod" matter, If you had the time to have a look at things before write down your opinion could have perceived that the mod in object clearly states in his profile that he DOESN'T READ PM, so the only way to contact him, unfortunately, is trough a tread, I gess
regards | ok, as for mod matter, i admit i didn't read. i wrote what i wrote as in "btw" manner. and although it is the main discussion here, i don't have some strong opinion, so, i am sorry i guess :)
now, as for offensive names.. although i despise all dictators mentioned, i could easily picture myself having one of their names. not to offend anyone for real, but as a liberty of expression. especially since i play demon faction, Hitler would go just nice with that evil i kinda represent here. and if my real name was Stalin (as i stated, i actually know a dude named Stalin), my character would be named that way, no matter what :D | | Has I said, perfectly free to think this way, I feel free to think otherwise ;) | as for mod closing your thread, well why don't you ask him why he did it?
this is against the "RULES" this brilliant forum section came up with. if a mod says or does something, it is not up for discussion. so maybe i should find the name of a great dictator and use that as my new name seeing how it goes with the them of the forums a little bit better.
I disagree- LOCKED!
You say im wrong?- POST DELETED!
I complain about it a lot, and will continue to do so, but for the most part i have come to terms with the fact that this is an amazing game with a VERY poorly run forum section.
funny side note, i went to type something on this topic in another and thread but by the time i hit post message it didn't go through because the "thread has been locked" | | Complaints regarding the moderators should be sent to Secretary via Private mail. | | yes because they will get right on that. right after they get to that stack of cheaters in the cheater section. | Hi guys
I didn't open this topic with the intention of complain about a mod, or make a process to mods, but to refer to a specific situation about the use of certain names and get a response from mods, so I would appreciate if we don't start a discussion about mods administration in general, and stay tuned to the specific theme, thanks | well then if you want to stay on that i believe this is a war game and people trying to be "the bad guy" by using names of known ones from history then that really shouldn't be a problem.
i can go into this further with you but i believe when someone is dead set on the fact that they have been "offended" it hard to break them out of that mind set and let them know that nothing is different by this person using the name.
history cant be changed, ignoring or praising those of the past will not change history, these things happened, so unless you believe these characters plan on starting a revolution and repeating history based on their names it should not be a problem. im pretty sure nobody spending their time on a computer game is in any position to do what has been done in the past.
at best they will achieve exactly what they intended to do. get a rise out of the over sensitive and be persecuted as "the bad guy" and gain attention from it. | so unless you believe these characters plan on starting a revolution and repeating history based on their names it should not be a problem. im pretty sure nobody spending their time on a computer game is in any position to do what has been done in the past
You see, trufleshufle, you can even be sarcastic, and think to be funny, but I still think is a question of principle. Every communication activity involves the franchaisization of sistems of thought and "normalization" fo ideas and practices, like every educational activity, so I continue to ask for a positioning by the mod, adms and authors of the game, which in other field seem to be very carefull about players relationships and sensitivity. One example, early in the game I have been fined 3k gold for answering a player who was bothering in PM with silly pretensions of fight with the expression "get lost" which I recognize is not very elegant, but as well is normally used in the game (mercenary quest messages), well, I didn't made a drama of it, just blocked the silly player and went on with the game. Moreover, I repeat, I found very disturbing the fact that THAT mod closed the precedent topic without any explanation or reference to game and forum rules, the same one who has a series of statements in his profile which could be considered offensive for players ( I am not a jerk!) and that sad agiographic description of "hate" as good for society. So, even if I am not afraid that pc game's players would be willing or "able" to repeat historical horrible adventures, I still maintain my point.
Furthermore, to "get attention" is not the objective of the game, if anybody is in here for this reason and try to do so in such stupid way, well, a reason more to have something done, like an invite and help to change nickname.
Regards | See, i answered you the first time, and you told me that you were looking for more thoughts on the topic of what should be allowed. i then changed my agenda and told you how i felt on that, now you are back to say that this person is taking advantage of his mod situation and nothing is being done about it(in a looping extended version of this).
so what is it your looking for exactly. a mod to tell you why the topic was closed by a repeat offender himself. or if a mod believes these things in this characters profile are against the rules and/or offensive. | | Well, you don't seem to get the point, sorry about that, but I don see any point in continuing repeating the same things I have already stated. If you have any problem with mods or adms behavior, open your own topic about it, meanwhile I will be looking for positioning of mods and adms on the matter (and not to make a process to any of them). So, if you don't have any add to what you said on the topic are kindly request to not post again, thanks |
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