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Authordark elf faction is too strong
Most of high level pl
sorry for duplicate post in a row i miss click somewhere obviously

So, most of high level players are playing DE and that's proof of the overpowered faction.

Shrews are probably the reason of this popular faction as it grants the possibility to the DE player to attack most of the time twice before slower faction can have their 1st stack appearing in the stack bar.

Before having new factions as requeted by other spost it could be better to fix that game flaw.

Actually 46 players out of the 100 top list are DE
If all factions were equal in terms of power we should have 100% / (and thus in terms of popularity somehow) we should have 100 / 7 = 14.28% for each faction.
We've for top 100 (it may vary as oplayer can switch faction):
DE = 46 %
demon 12%
barb = 10%
elf = 10%
knight = 9%
wizard = 7%
necro = 6%

It is really unbalanced.
DE aren't powerful, they simply suck at pvp at high levels.Shrews are always targeted first and the DE after that is simply useless.

DE are chosen because they are good in PvE.Shres rule in all situations : hunts,ambushes and MQs
Shres rule in all situations

means de is overpowered
It would not all be equally disributed some factions are just funner to play.

Every faction is balanced but some are good in some things others are good in other things.

EX:
Barbarian rules in pvp at high lvls
DE sucks at pvp but rules at PvE

Since most high lvl players do alot more PvE they choose DE. That doesn't mean they are better.
I agree the the mentioned: DE is not overpowered when PvP is considered. As soon as shrews are killed, DE has no decent shooter to kill innocent opponents :)
ok, maybe their dragon can kill them :P
It would not all be equally disributed some factions are just funner to play.

Every faction is balanced but some are good in some things others are good in other things.

EX:
Barbarian rules in pvp at high lvls
DE sucks at pvp but rules at PvE

Since most high lvl players do alot more PvE they choose DE. That doesn't mean they are better.
yeah cause alot of people don't do alot of pvp at higher levels like 13. so people do alot of ambushes merc quests and hunts. so DE's aren't over powering. some factions have things that their good at too
I've not said that other factions don't have anything good.
hunt4food, you have misunderstood what I said or want to change the subjet of my post.
I've said DE are overpowerfull compared to other faction.
I've not said faction x has not such units, faction y is weak, faction z has no good special habilities and so on.

Likourgos3 wrote Shrews are always targeted first then Shres rule in all situations

Is that not a proof that a unit is overpowered when always targeted first ?
I'm sorry but when fighting most of the time I try to kill the most dangerous stack, not the peasant.

In addition I've never precised that my post was talking about shrews but you guessed well.
It could have thought to bandit but you so easyly guessed that was especially focusing on shrews.
Of course they're so unbalanced and overpowered.

I agree some factions are more or less efficient depending on the task but my personal opinion is that I don't care that DE can strike a caravan stack 3 times before it can react but I'm really worried to have same kind of situation when they fight against other players.
They aren't OP in PvP it is ok ))

Thought once they're shrews are dead, they are NOT dead. You have to kill their lizard too, or you'll be suffering.
7. It is forbidden to create topics with suggestions to weaken/strengthen any unit, artifact, faction.
https://www.lordswm.com/forum_messages.php?tid=1838998

(that may not be what your doing but it sounds like it.)
Hello Heroes and Villians,

I have conducted a little research on faction statistics on our TOP 25 players.

Hopefully this will tell us a bit about most common / useful / weak factions based on LONG term game play (NOT becasue of flavour of the week / month) i.e. instead of counting the number of factions players are CURRENTLY playing with, their OVERALL playstyle is analysed.

Assumption: our top 25 players know and are experienced on what FACTIONS do the job (both PvE and PvP) efficiently and quickly. Therefore, they will train for them amd hence, their BIASED faction points IS their opinion of what factions are GOOD.

How did I do that?
I counted all the individual factions points of our top 25 players and generaeted the following statistics:

Knight: 35 points, 8.8%
Necro: 27 points, 6.8%
Wizard: 47 points, 11.8%
Elf: 46 points, 11.6%
Barbarian: 51 points, 12.8%
Dark Elf: 143 points, 36.0%
Demon: 48 points, 12.1%
Total: 397 points, 100%

There are my opinion based on the above:

Knight and necro factions are generally the WEAKEST and our top players avoid them like the plague.

Wizard, elf, barbarian and demon are generally BALANCED and useful at MOST jobs.

Dark elf is plain and simply most OVER-POWERED for everything.


So what are your opinions?
However, IMO we should wait until level 4 and 5 magic are introduced before balancing factions.

ans that is an """IF""" the server gets updated.... BIG IF !!!!
my opinion? shrew is a cheat :D
does anybody ever read the "read me" rules anymore?

7. It is forbidden to create topics with suggestions to weaken/strengthen any unit, artifact, faction.
for #11 when u said knight a geneally weakest how can u be sure of that?
i mean if ur a knight don't u have to be good at tactics and strategies also very patience so what i mean like everyone else says every fraction is good a something. and one more thing it doesn't mean if theres lots of dark elf and less whatever it just because De are good at hunts and so forth
It is forbidden to create topics asking to weaken or make stronger a unit or a faction.
closed by Lord Kotrin (2009-08-04 11:31:32)
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