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AuthorIllegal transfers: Set_Sveta [12]

3.14. Large transfers without cause and description are prohibited. All debts must be returned within one month after receiving, or else the transaction will be regarded as violation of par. 3.6. When giving or returning debts, providing the transfer description is compulsory.

3.15. Large transfers for the reason of leaving the game etc. are forbidden. Presents must not exceed 30% of the monetary property of the character per month. Monetary property is considered: gold + seven primary resources (wood, ore, mercury, sulfur, crystals, gems, leather) only. Rare trophies, Thief invitations, etc. transferred as gifts are valued at market price.

3.17. The Administration does not take responsibility for the unreturned debts and does not guarantee compensation in case of swindling by other players. When a loan is not returned in time, (the time must be written in the transfer logs, no more than a month) the swindler will be imposed a penalty of a sum twice as much. If the term isn't posted in the transfer logs, the penalty will occur 1 month after the loan transaction. The creditor does not get compensation.



Player: Set_Sveta - https://www.lordswm.com/pl_info.php?id=4300162

received illegal "gifts" from Derryk - https://www.lordswm.com/pl_info.php?id=4300196

He returned some but kept many at close to 500,000 worth in gold!

These gifts are well in excess of 30% of networth, gold was transferred without description and 4 months overdue for loans.

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https://www.lordswm.com/pl_transfers.php?id=4300196

ITEMS KEPT:
04-04-09 20:05: Transferred 378284 Gold 30 Gems 30 Crystals 20 Sulfur 20 Mercury 63 Ore 59 Wood to Set_Sveta :

04-04-09 20:11: Transferred element(s): 'Tiger`s claw' 13 pcs. to Set_Sveta
04-04-09 20:11: Transferred element(s): 'Moonstone' 10 pcs. to Set_Sveta
04-04-09 20:10: Transferred element(s): 'Ice crystal' 11 pcs. to Set_Sveta
04-04-09 20:10: Transferred element(s): 'Viper venom' 5 pcs. to Set_Sveta
04-04-09 20:10: Transferred element(s): 'Abrasive' 55 pcs. to Set_Sveta
04-04-09 20:09: Transferred element(s): 'Witch bloom' 7 pcs. to Set_Sveta
04-04-09 20:09: Transferred element(s): 'Fire crystal' 55 pcs. to Set_Sveta
04-04-09 20:09: Transferred element(s): 'Windflower' 12 pcs. to Set_Sveta
04-04-09 20:09: Transferred element(s): 'Toadstool' 37 pcs. to Set_Sveta
04-04-09 20:08: Transferred element(s): 'Meteorite shard' 37 pcs. to Set_Sveta


ITEMS RETURNED:
04-05-09 09:38: Received item(s): 'Great hunter arrows' [10/10] from Set_Sveta
04-04-09 19:58: Transferred item(s): 'Great hunter arrows' [10/10] to Set_Sveta
04-05-09 09:17: Received item(s): 'Thief dagger [E8A8W8]' [0/54] from Set_Sveta
04-04-09 19:58: Transferred item(s): 'Thief dagger [E8A8W8]' [0/54] to Set_Sveta
04-05-09 09:17: Received item(s): 'Thief ring [N1F2]' [0/54] from Set_Sveta
04-04-09 19:59: Transferred item(s): 'Thief ring [N1F2]' [0/54] to Set_Sveta
04-05-09 09:17: Received item(s): 'Great hunter ring of dexterity' [10/10] from Set_Sveta
04-04-09 19:59: Transferred item(s): 'Great hunter ring of dexterity' [10/10] to Set_Sveta
04-05-09 09:17: Received item(s): 'Great hunter ring of dexterity' [10/10] from Set_Sveta
04-04-09 19:59: Transferred item(s): 'Great hunter ring of dexterity' [10/10] to Set_Sveta
04-05-09 09:17: Received item(s): 'Signet-ring of might' [8/38] from Set_Sveta
04-04-09 20:00: Transferred item(s): 'Signet-ring of might' [8/38] to Set_Sveta
04-05-09 09:16: Received item(s): 'Thief ring [N1F2]' [0/54] from Set_Sveta
04-04-09 19:59: Transferred item(s): 'Thief ring [N1F2]' [0/54] to Set_Sveta
04-05-09 09:16: Received item(s): 'Great hunter boots' [10/10] from Set_Sveta
04-04-09 19:58: Transferred item(s): 'Great hunter boots' [10/10] to Set_Sveta
04-05-09 09:16: Received item(s): 'Thief boots' [0/54] from Set_Sveta
04-04-09 19:58: Transferred item(s): 'Thief boots' [0/54] to Set_Sveta
04-05-09 09:16: Received item(s):
I am give Set_Sveta some money for Smiths' guild
I know that Derryk give some resources not for Set_Sveta - he give that for clan. He can give with rules - one time in 1 month give to 30% of all money. But we need for clan Weaponsmith - Set_Sveta give free repear and Weaponsmith for some people free - and said that free becouse Derryk has made the donation in a clan.

I the sheriff inside of a clan also keep order inside it. And at once has told as behind game rules it is necessary what to do.

And for DEATHisNEAR: No need do Black piar
Patriot:I am give Set_Sveta some money for Smiths' guild
I can not see this in transfer logs but even so it has no impact on the illegal transfers with Derryk as long as it is within the rules

3.14. Large transfers without cause and description are prohibited.

3.15. Large transfers for the reason of leaving the game etc. are forbidden.


There is clearly a breach of these rules.

What Set_Sveta decides to do with this gold/elements after he receives it is unimportant unless he either returns to giver or sends to empire neither of which he has done!

Presents must not exceed 30% of the monetary property of the character per month. Monetary property is considered: gold + seven primary resources

He kept 100% of the gold received and 100% of the seven primary resources.

Rare trophies, Thief invitations, etc. transferred as gifts are valued at market price.

Actual items involved here are worth very little and even if they were full durability would not have made the other gifts within 30%
Just did the calculations:

TOTAL GIFT = 1,195,444

made up from:

378284 = gold

37000 = 370 x (30 gem + 30 crystal + 20 mercury + 20 sulphur)
22570 = 185 x (63 ore + 59 wood)

102700 = 7900 x 13 Tiger's claw
110000 = 11000 x 10 Moonstone
60500 = 5500 x 11 Ice Crystal
10000 = 2000 x 5 Vipers Venom
24750 = 450 x 55 Abrasive
6300 = 900 x 7 Witch Bloom
220000 = 4000 x 55 Fire Crystal
67200 = 5600 x 12 Windflower
15540 = 420 x 37 Toadstool
140600 = 3800 x 37 Meteorite shard
and what?
Smiths' guild: 3 (214.85) = 859 400
And Enchanters' guild: 2 (764) i am not calculate
What Set_Sveta decides to do with this gold/elements after he receives it is unimportant unless he either returns to giver or sends to empire neither of which he has done!

It is not okay to cheat whatever the reason. Whether he uses these illegal funds to help a clan or himself does not make it any more legal.

Cheating is cheating.
[Post deleted by moderator Kotrin // Deleted on author's request]
[Post deleted by moderator Kotrin // Deleted on author's request]
I did not report this earlier as I felt nothing would be done about it but now Arctic is back???

Player Vitosik ( https://www.lordswm.com/pl_info.php?nick=Vitosik ), is pretending that his clan is a tech clan AND that he is a game admin!
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Date: 2009-09-02 14:25:57
From: Vitosik
To: DEATHisNEAR

Subject: Re: Cheats within your clan - Artifecer' Allaince

I knew about it, but #320 is tech clan & I'm admin of game, so... I let Set_Sveta to stay in #320.
LOL, it's my bad English ;)

I want to say: I'm NOT admin of game, SO "Complaints and applications" don't intresting me.
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