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Authorhow to make the world a better place
inspired by the 9/11 controversy i want to ask:

how do we (not the gouvernments, churches or rockstars) make this world a better place?

discussion is open
what ever you do won`t matter because the power is always in the wronge hands!
kill all humans and destroy there cities then the animals have a chance to leave peacefully
well... there is a saying: the wise one gives in - that's why the world is ruled by stupid people... =)
"Life is change, chaos, filth and suffering. Death is peace, order, everlasting beauty."

this is the answer
one day the world will be destroyed... either it falls into the sun or drifts way - in both ways all life will die...

so it's no good way to leave the world to the animals... i don't know if earth is the only planet with life (the cosmos may be full of it) but as far as we know it is...

kind of a singularity.

kulture and higher intelect are needed to bring the seed of life to other planets. and at the moment humans are the only species that have the potential ability to do so. else in 5-7 billion years (afaik) all life will be extinguished forever. space will be emptier and colder without life...
Death is boring...

(sorry for double post)
one day the world will be destroyed... either it falls into the sun or drifts way - in both ways all life will die...

True to an extent. With the new antimatter fuel (which has no negative side-effects and is extremely EXTREMELY powerful) we will be able to travel efficiently and successfully to other planets, if our space-travel knowledge increases, we may even be able to move to other solar-systems successfully and in a short enough amount of time.

kulture and higher intelect are needed to bring the seed of life to other planets. and at the moment humans are the only species that have the potential ability to do so.
kill all humans and destroy there cities then the animals have a chance to leave peacefully

That's also true, if not by the reasons you say then they will also die through global warming (which is not 100% accurate, Ice age, hello). Although if this were to happen another species will evolve to human or even exceeding human intellectual abilities. An excellent example of this is the Opalescent squid, these squid have already developed near-human (although gophers do too) communication and sentence-structure abilities. Although for the squid, it is through flashing bio luminescent lights. But these squid can even talk about their emotions!!


We do not NEED leaders persay, we need balance. the entire universe works in balance only. The universe we live in is a vibrational world, and you can learn alot about what you should know by watching/listening to the "teachings of Abraham" thing with esther and jerry Hicks. Although i personally think esther/abraham is crazy 9and you will too at first) there is an extreme amount of truth in the things she says. what she says may come off as a philosophy or religion but its not, trust me...
so balance is more important than moral?

myself i believe so, yes. extremes always bring "counter-extremes". give freedom to people and they will be afraid of what their neighbor is doing - and cry for more rules. give a strict and firm systems of rules and sanctions to people and they will fight for freedom.

for Geia:
but even if you might be right: what is an individual to do to make the world a better place?

and should we first try to define the individual views on what is "better"?
Common sense is the answer.
Then we can have barely any rules and be free.
But not have to worry about crimes!
but even if you might be right: what is an individual to do to make the world a better place?
so balance is more important than moral?

Morals are nothing, especially compared to balance. Think of a scale, your trying to balance it right? youre trying to get everything to a neutral position. To do that, you need a certain amount of the positive, and the same amount of negative. for example: We need negativity to show us what we dont want so we can strive for what we do want, and then the positiveness gives us support and encouragement to keep going. Why do you think our teen years are so hard?

give freedom to people and they will be afraid of what their neighbor is doing - and cry for more rules. give a strict and firm systems of rules and sanctions to people and they will fight for freedom.

the problem with rules and such is that we set them but do not know why we have to or should follow them
example 1: the ten commandments in the bible were supposed to be the ten GUIDELINES but people screwed it up to control people just like with many other parts of the bibles
example 2: Wen i was little, i wanted so badly to touch a red hot burner no matter how hard my parents tried to reason with me. So, they let me touch it and i learned exactly why i shouldnt do that... now im scared of touching hot things lol
Common sense is the answer.
Then we can have barely any rules and be free.
But not have to worry about crimes!


to an extent but there are some flaws with that
But not have to worry about crimes

well, i work in closed-station in psychiatry, sort of a "prison" (not the right word, i know...) for mentaly highly disorganised and/ or dangereous people. and i work with people that doesn't have the thing you call comon sense. others seem to have no conscience (the classical soziopaths). believe me, some people seem to be absolutely unable to live in the society as we know it. what about them???

and they are many, you just don't see them because they get put in an institution (and give me a job).

don't forget that our society works only because we exclude a lot of people from it...
believe me, some people seem to be absolutely unable to live in the society as we know it. what about them???


These people are extremely annoying and hard to deal with, but what they really need is to be taught certain things at a young age cuz wen they reach a certain age everything they hear just doesnt even go in

don't forget that our society works only because we exclude a lot of people from it...

*sigh* once agen i must say "to an extent but not 100%" because there are some people who need chaos yes, but thats only to balance the people who try to be frends with everyone or something like that. theres no reason that a community cant just get along with itself
But to warn you, perfection does not exist and isnt possible to attain, for perfection itself has a balance counterpart and thats chaos, the neatral between the two is ignorance although it pains me to say it
what they really need is to be taught certain things at a young age

hmmmm.... well some of'em are simpy victims. deprived, punished by life itself, fed with veryVERY wrong experiences... others seem to have a pathological structural "deficit" (e.g. not being able to learn from sanctions or sozial-learning because of pathological changes in the brain).

often solutions sound so simple - but they aren't if you see the real people behind the diagnosis...
hmmmm.... well some of'em are simpy victims. deprived, punished by life itself, fed with veryVERY wrong experiences... others seem to have a pathological structural "deficit" (e.g. not being able to learn from sanctions or sozial-learning because of pathological changes in the brain).

often solutions sound so simple - but they aren't if you see the real people behind the diagnosis...


ive been through unimaginable things and ive turned out fine. the problem is the amount of resilience, ability to cope, optimism/pessimism, support, friends, family, overall environment, etc.
and about brain problems, most are curable, for the ones that arent: thats not their fault
most are curable

not at all!!!! absolutely and definetly NOT!!!! sorry to be so harsh - you have good ans valued points - but there you are completely wrong!!!!

i don't want to let "hang out the expert", but this matter is my job, i made my diploma and worked quite a time now in psychiatry. and i think it's important that people understand that in most cases there is no simple pill or psycho-surgery against mental disorder. drugs can help (help - not cure) in a lot of cases, but often have a lot of very negative side-effects.

and i don't work with the easy cases. my patients suffer - not only because they are mentaly ill - but also because society doesn't want them to take part. and i understand that. some of them they murdered, raped, tortured.

and, to be placative: these are people that would kill you on the street in their psychosis. just because a imperative voice in their heads tells them so... you ARE glad they are in a institution.

the other point is: i never told that it was their fault! the probleme is not in accusing someone - but in the simple fact that society works only by excluding qoite a lot of individuals (doesn't matter to me if that's "right" or "wrong"). it was a replie to the common-sense point.

what i meant: "common-sense" (whatever that might be) works only for people that have it...
not at all!!!! absolutely and definetly NOT!!!! sorry to be so harsh - you have good ans valued points - but there you are completely wrong!!!!

i completely disagree, so much so its not even funny. Theres a saying "the problem isnt the technology, its how we use it" and i beleive this

look at cancer and AIDS, the whole donate for cancer research is a scam and its because people donate to them thats made Bush and many other people pay or do something else to keep these cures away from the public. i dont have access to the cure for AIDS but i have something that can not only cure cancer, but everything else that people have tried it for. heres a list of some of the stuff theyve used this "penance" for:

reverse aging - successful
cancer - successful
repairing abbrassions and skin problems - successful
regrowing missing tissues and parts of organs - successful
clearing infection of all types - successful
curing depression - successful
becoming more mentally alert - successful
curing dementia - successful
curing alzheimers - succesful
reviving the dead - unsuccessful
clearing acne - successful

the list goes on. so i believe you are wrong in thinking that most are not curable because usually wen they cures for major things theres always people there to keep it hidden. for instance the CIA and FBI have a program to teach their agents how to remote view, and it works! nothing is impossible, try not to be narrow-minded to everything.
well your example sounds a bit paranoid to me (no offence).

the problem with mental illness is that you have, let's say a unbalanced neurotransmitter in your brain. no you make bizarre expiriences. these expiriences change your brainstrukture (same as if you simply learn something new). now drugs can rebalance your transmitters, but can't undo the structural changes (bizare structural changes).
Death is our salvation
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