| Author | Loan list of Germanium741852 |
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I saw that Germanium741852 got penalty of 80.000 gold because of he didn't pay back loan.
09-25-09 08:01: Player was imposed a penalty of 80000 gold. // Loan not returned.
I suspect that he actually didn't pay back loan much more than 80.000 gold, so I track his transfer log to see loan flow and this is what i find:
09-28-09 17:09: Received 20000 Gold from CGSMCMLXXV : loan from the clan for maximum 1 month
09-28-09 14:48: Received 50000 Gold from CGSMCMLXXV : loan from the clan for maximum 1 month
09-21-09 17:37: Received 1000 Gold from crasus : loan two days ;)
09-21-09 13:51: Received 6000 Gold from rikike16 : loan
09-19-09 18:56: Received 1000 Gold from MassMacros : short loan
09-14-09 18:52: Received 30000 Gold from MrTest : loan for one week-
09-09-09 15:22: Received 5000 Gold from Arkapal_11 : return 6000 loan for 3 days
09-09-09 12:59: Received 5000 Gold from Vagrant999 :
09-08-09 12:19: Transferred 700 Gold to odrolinek : loan back
09-06-09 10:44: Received 700 Gold from odrolinek : loan
09-05-09 15:27: Received 700 Gold from Zarebrant : loan
09-03-09 17:10: Received 8000 Gold from Acolyte : loan
08-25-09 10:23: Received 650 Gold from Delta369 : loan max 3 days
08-23-09 14:48: Received 3000 Gold from Nazgul : credit
08-23-09 13:23: Received 3000 Gold from Jiao76 : loan
08-18-09 04:48: Transferred 1000 Gold to odrolinek : loan back
08-17-09 17:59: Received 1500 Gold from Sutech : loan
08-17-09 12:21: Received 1500 Gold from Delta369 : loan max 3 days
08-14-09 11:27: Received 30000 Gold from MrTest : loan to September15th (back 130000)
08-13-09 09:56: Received 1000 Gold from odrolinek : loan
08-13-09 08:50: Received 2000 Gold from naapa92 : loan for day
08-12-09 10:41: Received 80000 Gold from Megavolt : credit for 12 september 2009
08-11-09 07:20: Transferred 1200 Gold to Eragon19R : loan back
08-10-09 11:58: Received 1200 Gold from Eragon19R : return afterf 2 days
08-04-09 13:47: Transferred 500 Gold to Eragon19R :
08-04-09 13:47: Transferred 550 Gold to odrolinek :
08-04-09 12:03: Received 550 Gold from odrolinek : loan
08-04-09 11:53: Received 600 Gold from Eragon19R : loan per one day.
08-04-09 11:42: Transferred 550 Gold to odrolinek : loan back
08-04-09 10:44: Received 550 Gold from odrolinek : loan
08-04-09 10:37: Transferred 1500 Gold to Delta369 : loan back 1/2
08-04-09 05:10: Transferred 1500 Gold to Delta369 : loan back 1/2
08-03-09 12:44: Transferred 200 Gold to odrolinek : loan back
07-31-09 09:18: Received 200 Gold from odrolinek : loan
07-27-09 12:26: Received 3000 Gold from Delta369 : loan max 2 days
07-16-09 09:30: Transferred 10000 Gold to Sutech : 20 k / 20 k
07-14-09 18:53: Transferred 10000 Gold to Sutech : return 10k from 20 k...... 03-08-09 17:52: Received 20000 Gold from Sutech
07-12-09 09:09: Transferred 1500 Gold to syperdestroyer :
07-08-09 06:53: Transferred 1000 Gold to Chenlong :
07-07-09 17:49: Transferred 1000 Gold to syperdestroyer :
07-07-09 17:48: Transferred 1000 Gold to Chenlong :
07-07-09 17:48: Transferred 1000 Gold to syperdestroyer :
07-07-09 17:48: Transferred 1000 Gold to Chenlong :
07-07-09 17:36: Transferred 1800 Gold to Immortius :
07-07-09 15:08: Transferred 1500 Gold to mila23 : vracim zpet
07-07-09 09:54: Received 1500 Gold from Immortius : loan
07-07-09 09:37: Received 1500 Gold from mila23 : vecer vemu z5
07-07-09 05:35: Transferred 1000 Gold to Mannoroth :
07-06-09 18:11: Transferred 400 Gold to mila23 :
07-06-09 17:30: Received 400 Gold from mila23 : vratit
07-06-09 11:44: Transferred 1000 Gold to syperdestroyer :
07-06-09 11:44: Transferred 1000 Gold to Chenlong :
07-06-09 11:44: Transferred 1000 Gold to syperdestroyer :
07-06-09 11:44: Transferred 1000 Gold to Chenlong :
07-06-09 11:43: Transferred 1000 Gold to syperdestroyer :
07-06-09 11:43: Transferred 1000 Gold to Chenlong :
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07-06-09 11:43: Transferred 1000 Gold to syperdestroyer :
07-06-09 11:43: Transferred 1000 Gold to Chenlong :
07-06-09 11:40: Received 7750 Gold from ontl3 : od mila23 - aby si nerekl ze sem svine tak ti neco dam.
07-06-09 10:59: Transferred 1000 Gold to syperdestroyer :
07-05-09 21:50: Transferred 1000 Gold to Chenlong :
07-05-09 21:45: Transferred 1000 Gold to syperdestroyer :
07-05-09 14:56: Transferred 1000 Gold to Chenlong :
07-05-09 11:23: Transferred 1000 Gold to syperdestroyer :
07-05-09 07:08: Transferred 1000 Gold to Chenlong :
07-04-09 16:32: Transferred 1000 Gold to syperdestroyer :
07-04-09 08:54: Transferred 1000 Gold to Chenlong :
07-04-09 08:03: Transferred 1000 Gold to syperdestroyer :
07-04-09 06:34: Transferred 1000 Gold to Chenlong :
07-03-09 21:15: Transferred 1000 Gold to syperdestroyer :
07-03-09 19:28: Transferred 1000 Gold to Chenlong :
07-03-09 19:28: Transferred 1000 Gold to syperdestroyer :
07-03-09 12:09: Transferred 1000 Gold to Chenlong :
07-03-09 10:47: Transferred 1000 Gold to syperdestroyer :
07-03-09 07:04: Transferred 1000 Gold to Chenlong :
07-02-09 20:13: Transferred 1000 Gold to syperdestroyer : sorry,loan back, i try to quickly return loan
07-02-09 20:11: Transferred 1000 Gold to Chenlong : sorry,loan back, i try to quickly return loan
06-26-09 04:38: Transferred 500 Gold to Aily : all loan back
06-25-09 16:17: Received 1200 Gold from Sutech : return gold
06-25-09 15:56: Transferred 1200 Gold to Sutech :
06-25-09 13:03: Transferred 1000 Gold to Aily :
06-25-09 11:02: Transferred 5 Gems to Aily :
06-25-09 08:06: Transferred 5 Crystals to Aily :
06-25-09 07:29: Transferred 500 Gold to Aily :
06-25-09 07:28: Received 2000 Gold from Aily :
06-25-09 06:23: Received 5 Gems 5 Crystals from Aily : loan, or business for 3700
06-24-09 09:24: Received 2600 Gold from odrolinek : i too thx
06-24-09 09:24: Transferred 2 Gems 2 Crystals 3 Sulfur to odrolinek : thx for business
06-23-09 18:10: Transferred 500 Gold to zipo369 :
06-23-09 13:37: Received 1000 Gold from ontl3 :
06-14-09 17:12: Transferred 2200 Gold to VerdanaThora : 4,5of 10 my loan,sry nestiham
06-13-09 18:12: Transferred 4500 Gold to VerdanaThora : 4/10 of my loan
06-11-09 18:43: Transferred 4400 Gold to VerdanaThora : 3/10 of my loan and 100 then
06-10-09 13:40: Transferred 4500 Gold to VerdanaThora : 2/10 of my loan
06-10-09 13:09: Received 40000 Gold from HellBrian : plz pm me once u received the gold
06-09-09 18:35: Transferred 700 Gold to mila23 : back loan
06-09-09 17:01: Received 8000 Gold from mila23 :
06-09-09 16:52: Received 40000 Gold from syperdestroyer : borrow until 4 weeks, use it careful
06-09-09 16:29: Transferred 4500 Gold to VerdanaThora : 1/10 of loan
06-09-09 15:31: Received 30000 Gold from aschiutza : loan for 3 weeks with interest 5000 gold
06-09-09 14:44: Received 71000 Gold from DAVIDOV : back with interess
06-09-09 14:41: Received 30000 Gold from kemich : loan
06-09-09 14:34: Transferred 70000 Gold to DAVIDOV : loan from this player mrt
06-09-09 13:45: Received 70000 Gold from MrTest : loan for 2 months (to August10th)
06-07-09 08:13: Received 5000 Gold from QuaDoom : Loan for Germanius741852
06-07-09 08:06: Received 20000 Gold from QuaDoom : Loan for Germanius741852
06-07-09 07:53: Received 3000 Gold from zipo369 : loan 1 whek
06-05-09 12:59: Received 60000 Gold from Chenlong : person loan without interest |
09-25-09 08:01: Player was imposed a penalty of 80000 gold. // Loan not returned.
If you have something to report from that date on, please, do it, otherwise this post is irrelevant.
For mods: the first two transfers SpecialOne reported involves me (as the clan leader). |
https://www.lordswm.com/forum_messages.php?tid=1864458
80k was only the loan Megavolt gave |
for CGSMCMLXXV:
I didn't reported the loan you gave to Germanium. I reported all loan that have pass 1 month but still not paid back by Germanium.
To make it more clear, I put all loan flow, in and out, until the day I made that report. |
For all those who write here a question: what do you think it's better, to block him and the creditors not to get their money, or to give him a chance to pay back his debts?
His problem is known now by me and we try to clear him out. But if you don't give him a chance, you will do more harm to all the players involved than him. I promise each of you that if my clan doesn't succeed to bring him on the good path, personally I will evict him and post a report here. But until then, he agreed to cooperate in this matter. Thank you for understanding! |
Look at his transfer log:
09-29-09 15:19: Acquired item: "Light axe" [25/25] for 887 gold from Tiberium as lot #892017
09-28-09 17:12: Castle modified. Construction added: Magic Guild level 3.
09-28-09 17:11: Acquired: 6 Gems for 2244 gold from Jedi-Knight as lot #888865
09-28-09 17:10: Acquired: 6 Crystals for 2244 gold from articdom as lot #888828
09-28-09 17:10: Acquired: 15 Sulfur for 5565 gold from Kokol as lot #889475
09-28-09 17:09: Acquired: 11 Mercury for 4081 gold from sianzzz as lot #889592
09-28-09 17:09: Received 20000 Gold from CGSMCMLXXV : loan from the clan for maximum 1 month
09-28-09 17:00: Acquired: 30 Wood for 5580 gold from dmitro as lot #887045
09-28-09 16:57: Acquired item: "Potion of oblivion" [1/1] for 2999 gold from Route66 as lot #889416
09-28-09 16:57: Castle modified. Construction added: Magic Guild level 2.
09-28-09 16:57: Acquired: 5 Wood for 930 gold from PASHK0 as lot #888129
09-28-09 16:56: Castle modified. Construction added: Magic Guild level 1.
09-28-09 16:54: Castle modified. Construction added: Treeherd vault.
09-28-09 16:17: Received item(s): 'Master hunter sabre' [10/10] from Acolyte
09-28-09 16:11: Received item(s): 'Light mithril cuirass' [24/70] from Acolyte
09-28-09 15:22: Received 87 Gold from Javi : hunter help
09-28-09 14:48: Received 50000 Gold from CGSMCMLXXV : loan from the clan for maximum 1 month
If he plan to pay back loans, why he didn't use your gold to pay back old loans? Instead, he used it to build building.
I didn't see his willingness to pay back loan. |
Player has been fined. Action has been taken.
3. It's forbidden to double-post applications, as well as bumping ("upping") them up by leaving pointless messages. A topic closed means that the affair is considered and actions are taken.
4. Questions concerning closed affairs, requests and other attempts to contact the Administration are made with the help of Secretary. Violation of this rule is penalized by at least 24 hour ban.
And don't forget:
1. If you aren't related to the application directly - don't leave your messages in its topic.
Thread closed. If you really have a problem with this, contact the admin. |
| closed by Lady Takesister (2009-09-29 20:03:05) |
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