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AuthorDajjal - the big LIARS
who is he, in Islam he was said as a 'BIG LIAR'....

some scholars say he was the one who to be 'Merlin' or saver, he made like that again when the last ages come(the ages is now > almost)

some shcholar says he was made from genies(demon) and human
so he can cast magic like socerers, and have a big mind like human, he can see what normal human can't see like :-(angel, satan, and any spiritual thing) and can go to genies world, maybe like fantasy that out of human mind. (Quran not tell about the genies world because it not related to our life, thought so)

however he still cannot accept Allah as his God, he thought that this world and genies world was already there, and when he come out again, he would admit he was God and the big cheater will do anything to lie, it would be a like - there would be a drought for 3 years, then he would come as our
'saver' and make1 a rain(fake but look like true), he can 'raise dead' and anything that related to magician.

and why does he not accept the God if he already can see most of the 'evidence', that was the greatness of Allah guide, he still can't see because in physically ( his right eye was blinded, same to his hert too, thought so)

some scholars say he was related to the Antlatis Island where he does the same live in a 'speacial' island that was guard by snake(faces like dragon) and a fairy beast(Jassasah)

and he was related to mayan too because how can people in the jungle know about star, maybe they were already smart or the dajjal teach them how to, most of people would say it alien makes....

and there a thing that was said come from future althought it was made a long time ago, it was a complex machine that use to count a lot of things, and forgot to say that dajjal was so genius, like Merlin he always like to get a lot of knowledge, he learn every knowledge - Tabii knowledge(world) magic knowledge, and other....

and some scholar say he has the ability of human and genies in one body(himself) which genies don't have mind and human don't have 'magician' ability so just imagine if two of it were in one body.

this what i got from internet:-

Other Ahadeeth regarding Dajjal inform us that:

His name will be Abdullah son of Cyatid.
He will emerge between Shaam and Iraq, and his emergence will become known when he is in Isfahaan at a place called Yahudea.
The Jews of Isfahaan will be his main followers.
Apart from having mainly Jewish followers, he will have a great number of women followers as well.
He will have with him fire and water, but in reality the fire will be cold water while that what appears to be cold water will in reality be a blazing fire.
Those who obey him will enter "his Jannat" while those who disobey him will enter "his Jahannam."
There will be a thick fingernail-like object in his left eye.
The letters "Kaa" "Faa" "Raa" will appear on his forehead and will be deciphered by all Mu'mineen regardless of them being literate or not.
He will have a ruddy complexion.
He will travel at great speeds and his means of conveyance will be a gigantic mule. It is said that he will play beautiful music which will attract the music lovers.
Dajjal will lay claim to prophethood.
He will then lay claim to Divinity.
He will perform unusual feats.
He will travel the entire world. He will send down rains upon those who believe in him, which in turn will cause good crops to grow, trees to bear fruit and cattle to grow fat.
He will cause drought to those who disbelieve in him, resulting in starvation and hardship for them.
During those trying times the Mu'mineen (Believers) will satiate their hunger through the recitation of Subhanallah and La'ilaha Ilallahu.
The hidden treasures will spill forth at his command. He will stay on this Earth for a period of forty days; the length of the first day will be one year, the second day will be equal to one month, the third day will be
The hidden treasures will spill forth at his command. He will stay on this Earth for a period of forty days; the length of the first day will be one year, the second day will be equal to one month, the third day will be equal to a week and the remaining days will be normal.
He will be unable to enter Makkah because the Malaikah (Angels) will be guarding the Holy City and nor will he be able to enter Madina because there will be Malaikah guarding each of the seven entrances to Madina; From Madina he will proceed towards Shaam where Imaam Mahdi will be stationed.
Finally Eessa alayhis salaam will descend from the heavens and pursue him and eventually kill him at present day Lydda (Baad Lud).

and i open for discussion now

why does he cannot accept God while he can see the 'evidence'?
He will travel the entire world. He will send down rains upon those who believe in him, which in turn will cause good crops to grow, trees to bear fruit and cattle to grow fat.
He will cause drought to those who disbelieve in him, resulting in starvation and hardship for them.


sounds like blackmailing....
sounds like blackmailing....

more worse than that.... =.=
www.geocities.com/muslimapocalyptic/story_of_the_dajjal.htm

this is the website, forgot to put :X
Sounds like the anti-christ to me.
for modi:

were the hell did he say christians come on stop trying to flame this kind of topics
why does he cannot accept God while he can see the 'evidence'
He does knowledge God. He chooses to turn away and deny God in order to try to BE God. By drawing people away from God he serves the Devil and leads God's children astray and against God's Chosen.

Is anyone's religious sensitivities affected by this discussion, I must ask.
Sounds like the anti-christ to me.

i m not sure what anti-christ is... but not related to any other religion than Islam(it was related actually)

the related things is Isa or you called Jesus. known as Messiah, but Dajjal was a Messiah too, but he was a false/fake Messiah(no offence but it true)

so the first one will come out is fake because Isa(Jesus) will come killed him after that...

Dajjal was related to most religion I thought, same stories as mayans(and merlin) too, that predicted the end of the world at year 2012, he just lie it, or maybe he can count (remember that he supergenius) that's why he too arrogant to accept Allah as a God(just as my thought), and with the 'support' of the Deviltoo... but the one who control the world is God....

this one story of Dajjal :-

live in an island, was guard by a hairy beast(Jasassah). the beast was told to take care of Dajjal, still young, Dajjal was not evil, but don't know when, he start to leave the island, spread his 'religion', when Rasulullah S.A.W birth, every darkness, lieing and defamation we're blocked, at the same time, Dajjal come back at the island, and he was then captured by Jasassah and 'jailed' until the death of Rasulullah, Dajjal thought that Jasassah was envy of him. then he leave the island and swear not coming back, and the same time the island was gone forever destroyed by sea waves (some scholars related to Atlantis Island.., before that Jasassah warn Dajjal, if you leave the true faith then you will faces Allah's wrath (hell of course)

Dajjal was smart by using the 'hibernation' in genies world, that some scholar said genies worlds times move slower than our, like if we passed for years they just a few day, or weeks.... Dajjal used it to still alive until his plans we're broked or he would to live longer >>> he was birth in Noah a.s ages (where human at that time can live(100-200 years). at the right time, Islam will be strong again as the long ago(uthmaniah ages) when Imam Mahdi come, then Dajjal plan will broked up into pieces....so he come to solve it up....

so that was the story how he betray Allah, i thought he was 'hardly' induced by satan and Devils....

there's only 2 area that he can't enter, Medina and Mecca.... because it was guard by angel(don't thought like the angel in this game =.=)

however he just need to speak outside the city, and the one who hear and have low faith or any non-muslim, will follow him....

now i ask every muslim that read this.... what will you do when he come, so be prepared before it's too late, or maybe you would be lucky die before he come.... :X although, he just come when everybody forget about Dajjal, then was remind back when Imam Mahadi come... then he come ;I

regards,
Mr-Lord
i m not sure what anti-christ is

dajjal is the anti-christ
Is anyone's religious sensitivities affected by this discussion, I must ask.

No, but i have to say that this kind of messages always leave me perplexed, specially if left where young people meet..

We ought to put forward a fact, better an axiom:

All this is just litterature, fantastic, fascinating, and.. immaginary.

There is no such thing as a single proof that any of this hasn't been imagined by some person in search of fame or glory, to present one self as some "secret keeper" who expects people gratitude for having warned them of an imminent event that might fall upon the world.

Indeed, it has always been this way since mankind can communicate, some smart guy (or gal ^^) came out of the crowd saying "warn you! the world will end this way!" and some other guys or gals sometime started to believe it, usually younger than the first one; and this lead on to the beginning of religious believings and sometime strange behaviours in order either to follow some useless rules, or to try to protect oneself from.. the nothing that might happen.

And what is worrying me is indeed that on this server there ARE youngster, playing a game of war and magic, sometime deep inside it.. I fear that posting in this chaotic way literary informations without a proper introduction might mislead somebody to think that they actually do have some real roots somewhere..

So allow me to say, they do not.

This is surely a most interesting and entertaining conversation for the scientist and the student of superstitious and sociological history, but none of this has, is, or will ever happen. And no fact in the world can prove the opposite as of today.


now i ask every muslim that read this.... what will you do when he come, so be prepared before it's too late, or maybe you would be lucky die before he come.... :X although, he just come when everybody forget about Dajjal, then was remind back when Imam Mahadi come... then he come

And i believe this is the kind of wrong turn that this conversation *should not* take. It sounds to me too much more of a search for new sect members than a light speech that can be kept on a game forum.

If you really need this kind of answers, i would suggest you to post your questions in a specialized forum.

But my opinion is that from start you didn't post this thread in "bona fide".

Sorry.
If you really need this kind of answers, i would suggest you to post your questions in a specialized forum.

this is off-game forum, so just enough... i just warn... and islam just give the way but up to us to believe or not.... but everyone will 'pay' what they have/will do right?

and i always believe what i believe and will check the others if they can be compared to this religion and faiths....

and what i want to say this is just opinion that was related to the Dajjal only, it was a thing that not sure because it not told much in Quran and Hadits (Islam teaches mostly how to live perfectly that mostly said in the Quran, like hard drinks was forbidden by Islam because it just troubles the people, and who need the things to live, thought as simple as that). Sometimes it(dajjal) was thought as a phenomenon(if you can see this day, a lot of crime were happen) by some scholar.

thnx in advance.
for modi:

were the hell did he say christians come on stop trying to flame this kind of topics


Oh did I miss where he wrote " Muslims only?" I read "and i open for discussion now." Or are you afraid to debate a Christian on the subject?
did i say its a Muslim only forum ?

i said if you want to post here just post on the topic not off topic
are you afraid to debate a Christian on the subject?

debate me 8D
did i say its a Muslim only forum ?

i said if you want to post here just post on the topic not off topic


Uh, that is on topic because it mirrors the anti-christ although he was written about 600 years before dajjal. Besides, if this topic claims things about Jews(and it does) I can certainly defend myself. I have no problem discussing this topic at all and don't want it closed but if you try to control the debate then what is its purpose?
plss Modi and Romiah, don't flame up, or the mods would get some 'water' on you...

and everyone can give your own opinion about this, althought i just want it answer, maybe most of you(muslim) don't know about this because this info was i found in a book of my friend, the writer do lot of research... from Quran, history, acient mitos and anything... he believe that it was not create by the people itself(the mitos and legenda) without it suppor(Dajjal)

thnx in advances
debate me 8D

Not a problem. You opened the topic for discussion and it was not me who got all upset and cursed. Anyone who knows both religions can see the similarities of the anti-christ and dajjal.
I know about them because I studied a bit. May I ask are you Sunni?
debate is not good....if u wanna discuss...just discuss as a friends...

dajjal is very scary
now i ask every muslim that read this.... what will you do when he come, so be prepared before it's too late, or maybe you would be lucky die before he come.... :X although, he just come when everybody forget about Dajjal, then was remind back when Imam Mahadi come... then he come

Never mind my last question. This statement tells me you are Shiite because you write about the hidden Imam.
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