| Author | The true dark age of Lordswm, aka lets talk about corruption |
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1: The labour guild rule.
We have heaps of people out there which have too much money (true)
Newbies don't need money (False)
No one is dependent on lg just to buy arts (false)
There are players with 1 lg who dont have any arts and are themselves at level 5 and 6. (True)
2: Thieving aka TGI rent rule
Most high lvls used it to gain money (true)
People bought more of it with diamonds just to be able to rent (True)
3: houses and estates
Lots of money is pumped out of the game (true)
They will rarely be used by players under lvl 7 (probable)
What will happen (this is not certain but most probable)
1: A majority of newbies will have quit the game due to having a low income (Text quests give next to none)
2: TGI price will soar to the skies, most new players who reached lvl 6 and 5 will just ignore tg and go for mg, most people will lose a valuable part off income |
| I think this is just a pointless whinnig of player who plays only 1 hour a day, nothing else. |
| I think this is just a pointless whinnig of player who plays only 1 hour a day, nothing else. |
| If your whinning why do you have to complain don't make it harder for anyone else say there will be a "corruption" and newbies have to quit y do that to? the could work ten times do one hunt simply. about TGI's i don't no what going to happen |
1: The labour guild rule.
We have heaps of people out there which have too much money (true)
Newbies don't need money (False)
No one is dependent on lg just to buy arts (false)
There are players with 1 lg who dont have any arts and are themselves at level 5 and 6. (True)
For what do new players need money for? They don't need to use arts until level 5. That's not to say you shouldn't ALWAYS enroll when you're online, but you don't need money for anything other than castle upgrades until level 10.
Those players at levels 5 and 6 without money should enroll more :)
2: Thieving aka TGI rent rule
Most high lvls used it to gain money (true)
People bought more of it with diamonds just to be able to rent (True)
High levels use it to gain money? You're not really gaining money when you use all the arts that you need to win thief combats.
3: houses and estates
Lots of money is pumped out of the game (true)
They will rarely be used by players under lvl 7 (probable)
No one NEEDS estates. And those who can't buy one can rent. :)
1: A majority of newbies will have quit the game due to having a low income (Text quests give next to none)
Again, maybe they should enroll more. :)
2: TGI price will soar to the skies, most new players who reached lvl 6 and 5 will just ignore tg and go for mg, most people will lose a valuable part off income
They could buy them with diamonds, like the first players on this serer had to do. :) |
On the labor guild, if you are talking about the announced rule, I don't think that is going to hurt newbies much. If they aren't enrolling, it won't affect them at all. Even a low level person can win a hunt or so without trouble every 10 enrolls. Only players that avoid combat entirely to maintain a low level will really be affected (and perhaps people that log in from work or whatever that can't do combat from there.
As for the TGI, yeah, it changes the dynamic quite a bit. At first I think TGI prices might drop slightly (only because people are not thinking long term, and just want to unload what they can no longer rent). Then they will start to rise, and continue to rise to effective infinity, ultimately to the point where they can only be purchased with diamonds. This will mean that TG membership won't be as automatic as it is now, for better or worse. Perhaps the increased MG focus will offset the enchanting changes. |
but you don't need money for anything other than castle upgrades until level 5.
Whoops. :P |
| not whining just facts |
to vidlak
I rent TGI (prefer players from clans, Im member):
- first 14 days for free
- 2.500 gold for each extra day needed
- after reaching lvl 2 you will return to me TGI and one thief artifact (you can choose which one)
- you have to reach TGI lvl 2 within 1 month. If you dont return TGI within 1 month you will have to pay penalty 300.000 gold
- So be quick, reach TGI lvl 2 within 14 days and you will not have to pay any gold to me and you keep one thief artifact of your choice.
TGI Waiting list:
Ady_Coldfire
does this ring a bell to you?
srry for double post |
| but the problem that i am sure you are well aware of are changes in thieves guild invitaions |
to orkbustla: I bought my first TGI for 80 diamonds and anyone could do the same.
And everything you wrote is just an evolution of a game.
I started this game in march 09 (so considering others just recently:). Should I complain that I have to wear minimum AP if it wasnt necessary before, that I cant do 1/2 or 1/3 hunts which would brought me more HG points, that I .....etc? I just took the game how it was when I started and tried to do the best. |
| whoa 80 diamonds that must cost about 90 dollars o.o |
I agree with Vidlak, i was an ignorant fool when i started. I rarly enrolled and did a lot of pvp. Back in those days didn't realy matter, right? Then AP rule started up, and i could have complained. I could have joined guilds protesting the rule. Or i could have started enrolling and going with the flow.
The AP rule is there for a reason, i realized that it was a good one, so i started enrolling. Now i'm a level 5 in a war clan (somewhat a rarity) Able to pay back my loans and almost at LG level 2.
There are reasons admins use these rules, and it's not to be mean to the player. THe laborers guild rule is ther so that we don't have people with 10 million gold and hundreds of resources at level 2. They would be overpowered through the rest of the game. We have the TG rule so that people willl spend more money in diamonds. Running the game isn't free you know, the admins could shut this place down if they wanted to and find another way to spend their time. Probaly one hat is a lot more profitable. And estates are heree for the convience of the player, when i think about it that's why thieves guild is here too.
TG and Estates arn't rights, they're privleges. If we can't make the gold to buy them, then we don't buy them. That's that. |
To orkbustla:
08-04-09 06:04: Registered. Faction: Necromancer.
So, how much do you know about the changes before?
Don't bother to find out when I registered myself:
10-22-08 12:48: Registered. Faction: Elf.
I am here only since 1 year and I've seen other changes you would categorize as, what?, the new black hole of LWM or... This is the second major change in the game I witnessed here. You do nothing by complaining, I assure you of that. You have two options: accept it or leave the game. Fighting against these changes doesn't accomplish anything, so, it's not an option.
Good luck! |
orkbustla
...well, you are entitled to your OPINIONS on the future of LWM, according to projections in TGI costs and etcetera; however wrong or unenlightened you may actually be...
However, there is another subject that needs bringing up:
1. How dare you turn a G&C forum posted by me which was based on players who have stayed faithful and encouraged by lordswm, and then use that as a means to badmouth the game! i.e. "The true dark age of Lordswm" from "Thank you Players"
2. You throw words like 'corruption' around as if you hold some authority in this gaming system without really understanding the damage you do. As mentioned above there are new players who may actually believe your babble and consider it - however wrong and misplaced your 'advice' may be.
3. What amazes me is a player such as yourself who is breaking multiple rules in this game and then badmouths the admins who give them a FREE game for you to play and speak openly on. How do you expect anyone to believe your statements above when you are either a) too lazy or b) too rebellious to follow simple rules in the game.
What am I talking about?
1) labeling all accounts in the profile with the main and alt characters
2) having no more than 3 accounts
3) As per rule 3.13.3 = 03-01-09 03:45: Transferred item(s): 'Round shield' [0/7] to be returned until 02-03-09 03:45 ; for 0 battles ; (repairing allowed) to Celtic . Transaction price: 200 Gold |
| Are we now only allowed to praise the game for fear that someone might see that not everyone likes everything about it? |
| passo. be more specific with your possibly rhetorical statements... |
Are we now only allowed to praise the game for fear that someone might see that not everyone likes everything about it?
Nope but calling it dark age and corrupt? Only few days after update? Update that everyone has been awaiting for about 10 months?
I have been asking questions about parts of these updates I found weird. I was always interested about the problems that might occur. The great power gap between old players and new ones. But I was never so bold to judge. At least not yet.
Just give it few months. Also to your points:
Laborers guild change: Wont affect normal low level players at all.(TRUE) If you want to play Lords Of the Codes, I suggest another game.
Thiefs guild change: TGI was never used by majority of low level players to earn gold.(TRUE)
The prices of thiefs guild invitations wont go skyrocketing as you suppose. They might even cost LESS at market. Just an idea: 200 players with TGIs unable to rent them anymore. High supply, low demand(not many players have 400 000 to buy it). The price might actually go below 300k. |
| I think they might drop initially, but only if players are greedy to cash in. Since not all players who buy a TGI will get to TG5, though, many TGI purchased at market will leave circulation permanently. As less and less TGI are availanle for gold, the price will rise without bound, until essentially none are available for gold at all. |
There is a counter-force to TGIs dropping out of market(although I think when someone saves 400k and buys a TGI, he will finish it). That force would be new players with 80 Euro who will get a TGI and then sell it.
This should create a balance. Although I agree. In time, thieving will be once again something rare, only serious players can do. But maybe it was intended to be this way? |
