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Hiya all,
First off, lemme say this post has nothing to do with the blindfold tourney that's currently ongoing now, so it would be out of topic if it goes into the '2nd blindfold battle' thread. It's just about this type of battle that we play everyday in general.
Ok, I may be level 12, but (you can check my combat logs), I have NEVER played a single battle of this type before, so what little I know about this type of battle has all been info I read in the forums.
I'm not here to discuss specifically about the recent much-talked about 'teaming from the start' from members of the same clan (not specifying any particular clan in particular), but one of the common explanation given to support that issue goes something like this -
"Oh, why are you surprised? it's very common. A lot of players are doing it. Players teaming up is part and parcel for that type of battle." etc.
Now to my point - Why is it even called "Free-for-all" in the first place? Thanks to a good friend (he's been in the game much longer than me, but is not very good in his command of English), I have checked almost this entire site -> No where in any official post/thread/script/rules is the term 'free-for-all' used to describe a type of battle!
I checked the official Game Rules -> General rules - Nada.
I checked the Tournaments page - Nada
I checked the Official Announcement section - Nada
The ONLY time this term is used, from all the pages I have checked, is this -
Tournaments are divided into three classes by admitted ammunition:
"Free-for-all". Lords can enlist regardless of the items they currently wear. Enchantments do have effect in these types of tournaments.
This means that this term is used to describe the AP/arts requirement one can wear for a tournament/battle, and NOT describing a type of battle itself.
Without naming names, I have even came across mods who used this term to describe this type of battle, when it's obviously not the correct term.
Now, the term I see officially used for this type of battle is "Every one for oneself". It can be found in,
- Tournaments (about the game) - https://www.lordswm.com/help.php?section=44
# Blindfold tournament
Blindfold tournament uses blindfold battles as a template: 6 players, "every one for oneself" battle types, no chat, no character names or info.
- When you go to Group Battle and create a challenge, you get "every one for oneself" as an option of the type of battle you want to create.
- In the Official announcements-->New Way of the Blindfold - https://www.lordswm.com/forum_messages.php?tid=1869776
Technical features:
- Blindfold tournament uses blindfold battles as a template: 6 players, "every one for oneself" battle types, no chat, no character names nor info. | So now we arrive at the term, "every one for oneself". Not withstanding the fact that in the official rules and description, it states clearly..no chat, no character names nor info (it's stated for an obvious reason), why is it then that many players defended the teaming action as a common practice (and hinted that it's widely accepted) when this type of battle is aptly named - everyone for ONEself?
Which part of "every one for oneself" do we not understand? Does the battle type says "every one for oneself, unless you are friends and/or in the same battle clan"? I don't see it..
So if the name and description for this battle type is self-explanatory, and clearly stated (can't get clearer than the term used), why is it then that 'teaming' is, according to some, common practice and generally accepted here? It's even used to defend the action of teaming, in some instances.
And if the term indeed means what it says - "everyone for oneself", plus the added description for this type of battle stating that "no chat, no character names nor info" is available, why is teaming not a punishable offense?
Lastly, just coz something is easy to do, and/or a lot of players are doing it, DOESN'T makes it legal. Just look at illegal transfers/financial support by multis for example - It's easy to do, hard to track down all who are doing it, and a lot of players are doing it. Does it make such activities legal?
The answer is obvious, I would think.
PS: This thread is meant to clarify the term 'free-for-all', and whether it's correct to use it to describe a type of battle, when it's clearly not intended to, according to the game's rules and description. It's not meant to have any negative implications on any specific player(s). | i see your point, most people openly abuse this rule
8. Temporary treaties in 'Everyone for oneself' (or Blindfold battles) are not forbidden. If two or three players unite for eliminating the fourth - it is not a game rules violation. But consider that this rule does not permit participating the same combat with additional characters or from one computer
and most people fail to recognise the significance of the Temporary treaties, it is certainly a point that needs review. | Soz, typo -
Ok, I may be level 12, but (you can check my combat logs), I have NEVER played a single battle of this type before, until the current tourney (where I played probably my first and last), so what little I know about this type of battle has all been info I read in the forums. | Jedi,
I agree with you that blindfold fights like it is today are NOT AT ALL blindfold, and definetely not everyone for oneself (that is also why I am using this tourny only to increase my fsp on alt factions) ...
The only solution could be that at the beginning, heroes are forced to attack a target ... say, for example, hero 1 can only attack hero 6, hero 2 vs.hero 5, hero 3 vs hero4. Only when you have killed your initial enemy then you are free to attack whoever you like ...
and to prevent very long fights, every 3 turns of your specific troop must be an attack or the troop will act freely ... | | [Post deleted by moderator Pang // ] |
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