| Author | Give us back Fair control system in Roulette |
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Here
https://www.lordswm.com/help.php?section=21
we have so called "Fair game control system":
A long number sequence has been created using a random number generator. That sequence predetermines the roll results in roulette games.
Every month the players will be granted access to a password-protected archive with the sequence for the current month. In the beginning of the next month, the password will be proclaimed.
The last archive there is
February 2009 archive
Why there are no other files?
Why such lies?
11 months missing?
Please add all archives of 2009 year.
I have some suspicions, i.e. it is NOT FAIR.
Please prove me wrong by adding those files.
And we also should have future files (i.e. current month), only then it would be FAIR. |
| The point of such a system is that you post the archive beforehand and provide the password afterward so people can check that the numbers weren’t manipulated depending on the bets made, so what’s the point of posting old archives? |
The point of old archives is to keep at least one part of their promise - give those files to us (they promised, but don't give it).
Some players have fun playing roulette and trying to make some theories about an algorithm of winning. This is part of the LordsWM game.
In the dark times of this game roulette was the ONLY part of this game which kept me in this game.
I wouldn't lose so much gold in roulette if it weren't so interesting to me.
The old data would give me pleasure to explore the roulette more deep, i.e. this would be a fun.
I'm ready to lose one million more for checking my theories, but I need the old data. Otherwise, roulette is boring for me (well, occasionally I do some bets, but I would like to play it more seriously). |
Are 40,000 records not sufficient to find and check a theory?
And what makes you think that they don't pick from a large class of algorithms and choose a new one every month? |
for fusei:
Even if they change the algorithm every day, it would be some another algorithm :)
This rather belief than a science, but it gives fun.
Are 40,000 records not sufficient to find and check a theory?
Of course, you can check your theory even with 0 gold (by just watching and recording all numbers), but this would be boring, i.e. when you put your money then you think much harder, you feel something, i.e. you really play roulette, not just watch it :) |
| So you want the archives just for your personal amusement, unlikely to happen, they may be updated, but not to sate your curiousity. Isn't there even an unoffical site that keeps track of the numbers? |
| Not just that. He is also -methinks- not sure, that the numbers are really progenerated before each month, and not in that last (sooo looong) minute, when you can't make bets anymore. It's not so difficult to write an algorhythm that creates the number which takes the most gold from players :P |
| Spellblaster is right. You just have to sum all the total winning amount for 38 possible roullete results and compare them. |
Guys, I hardly doubt that administration do this analysis every round :-D They really don't try to make you lose :-D
Anyway, the phrase about complete randomness really is misleading - yes it is algorithm, but todays random number generators uses very complicated algorithms (functions) and I hardly doubt anybody here can break it. The period of the sequence is probably longer than the count of rounds per month. |
fusei:
Isn't there even an unoffical site that keeps track of the numbers?
This site no longer shows the numbers:
http://hwm-tools.ru/index.php?act=rolcom
(I mean it's no longer free)
fusei:
So you want the archives just for your personal amusement, unlikely to happen
The whole LordsWM game (and any other game, including roulette) is some personal amusement, isn't it?
It's not life and death question, of course.
My points:
1) they didn't keep promise to give us those files, so whats the point of telling WRONG information about "Fair game control system"?
https://www.lordswm.com/help.php?section=21
2) the old missing files won't prove now the Fair roulette game, but it would give less suspicions (a year ago they apologized for delaying and gave us all files, including old missing files - it was fine, my suspicions gone at that time, but now I have suspicions again)
3) ok, forget the old files, but why there is no current file?
We should have January 2010 archive now, shouldn't we? |
| Why there is no current file? |
| Thanks for "Fair game control system", at least for 2010 year. |
its totally random you cant guess what number next so why ur asking 'fair control system'?
in Real life gambling is not a good habit too and you could see many people owing other's money..same as here..just quit gambling is u felt unhappy |
for moro88:
I'm not unhappy with roulette, I really love it.
Just wanted to be sure that it is fair (i.e. that those numbers are completely random). |
| actually for you it would be better if roulette is NOT random, then you can find a system to make you rich. |
14.
fair?no gambling is 'fair' it just depend your 'luck'
still i have to say gambling is depend on your luck not your 'calculation' |
| I think you are all missing the point. Lords has promised that they would keep the roulette data current, however this is not the case. It was an agreement that they had with the users. Not caring just b/c it doesn't pertain to you is wrong. Not showing something that you promised is fishy, and in government they call that corruption. thus, people have the right to think that roulette is being corrupt when it lands on the 1st dozen 7 times in a row! We all know that the economy is bad, so how do i know that they arn't playing with roulette evey now and then to take money out of the system?Only records can prove that. Either they should update the databank or get rid of the promise. I personaly don't care, but if people find it helpful and lords said that they would why not be appaled by their lack of agreement. |
The last archive there is
February 2010 archive
Why there are no other files? |
Why there are no other files?
^^ Coz LWM justice, you must live with it. |
It was discussed many times and we still don't have those files?
For example:
https://www.lordswm.com/forum_messages.php?tid=1845391&page=3#401023
https://www.lordswm.com/forum_messages.php?tid=1879964&page=1#389939
I'm not playing roulette anymore since it is really "NOT FAIR" since they don't provide us archives.
Why do they have to cheat?
We would lose the gold anyway (I mean if those numbers would be completely random, i.e. there were no script deciding who loses and who wins), but it would be a fun to play that part of the game - roulette. |
