| Author | phantom initial initiative |
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| what does it depend on? sometimes it's faster than the original stack ,sometimes not.. also it seems to be based on the accumulated iniative at the moment you cast the spell |
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for Wurmtog:
because phatom has the same initiative that origin stack. That because- random) |
| well the difference bewteen a phantom stack and his original is much higher than between 2 original stacks of the same type |
for Wurmtog:
but in initiative there is not any difference beetween P and O stacks :) |
| right.. but in the accumulated initiative |
for Wurmtog:
it is depend how later after turn O stack, your hero make P of this stack. |
| sorry i do not understand |
for Wurmtog:
sorry, my enlsih not well)
expamle 1:
O stack attack, and then hero do P stack
expamle 2:
hero do P stack. and then O stack attack (or P stack attack)
In 1 expample P stack will attack ealtier then O stack, because O stack just attacked, and in 2 expamle - random -\+ 10% ini |
| *english |
ok. i understand now
so you say that the P stack has to wait for their initiative to accumulate from 0 on.
(i have the feeling they sometimes already have accumulated iniative)
i will make some investigations / testing soon.
any other people comment ? |
| For shooter troops, I always try to let my O (Original) stack wait until my Hero can cast Phantom on them. That way, the P (Phantom) stack can have just as many shots & initiative as the O stack. This works great for shooters and also allows time for the enemy to move withing shooting range so both the O & P stack can get full damage. |
Most of the time, phantom will have 50% accumulated initiative when it appeared.
It depends on the lord's accumulated initiative when casting the spell, it is subtract by 50%. |
@ 13 interesting theory, that basically means the phantom gets the first turn in double speed, compared for example to resing a dead unit of the same type.
but one thing: when casting the spell, the lord always has 100% accumulated initiative..,, ^^ ?? or not |
@ 12
A) if the P stacks accumulated initiative amount is as high that of the O stack, your decision to wait is good.
B) if 13 is right and it's default 50% then your decision is not good (or not asgood as in A), because your P stack gets one more shot but your O stack wasted 1/2 turn.
anymore knowledge input ? ^^ |
