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AuthorA wizard who wont hit
Player : Kira (https://www.lordswm.com/pl_info.php?id=4301753)
Battle Id : https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?lt=-1&warid=19820767

This player joins my hunt and then does NO attack on the enemy.. making me hit always. He is a wizard and he never uses his spells in battle. All he does is defend or raise. I check his battle logs and he has been irritating ppl in the same manner.

He finally speaks when I choose his way of battle and start defending..

I think he wants the hunt points without any experience or racial pts.. but he really irritates the way he plays..
He didnt break any rules at all, he just needed to win a combat in order to get rid of workaholic penalty

If admins start making weird rules, people find craeture (and weird) ways to get around it. Nothing illegal about it
[Player banned by moderator Kotrin until 2010-03-10 16:27:13 // Sorry, but it's not yours to choose. Please refrain from making comments here.]
i know it can be annying
but hee did bring u the victory and kept rulez
didn't he so plz don't complain
[Player banned by moderator Kotrin until 2010-03-11 08:25:44 // Please refrain from making comments here.]
well.. its not like he brought me the victory.. if he wants to remove that penalty, as him to fight his own battle..

There are not many wierd rules in this game.. but certainly wierdos like Kira should be reprimanded for irritating fellow players...

There shud be a blocklist for every player.. dont want him on my hunts anymore..
he did by raising he took most damage and without the blocking u wud had been in trouible as well
its not like he brought me the victory.
so basically you said you didnt need him to win?
then why did you ask for assistance, exactly, because you cant win alone.
And together with him you won easily, so he DID gave you the victory.
You should be happy, you get more exp / fsp this way then if some elf joins that kills 95% of all units before you get your first turn.
so basically you said you didnt need him to win?
then why did you ask for assistance, exactly, because you cant win alone.
And together with him you won easily, so he DID gave you the victory.
You should be happy, you get more exp / fsp this way then if some elf joins that kills 95% of all units before you get your first turn.

Actually i invite players if i dont need them and i am happy when they kill 95% because i dont want the raise of naturals.
[Player banned by moderator Kotrin until 2010-03-11 08:26:07 // Please refrain from making comments here.]
sven,.. i dont buy ur argument..

I dont get the proper exp/fsp ratio.. i'm at a disadvantage here... I asked for a decent assistance.. someone who plays the game in spirit.. not an annoyance like him..

I dont care if i win easily or with 1 hp remaining... I want equal sharing of exp and a sense of teamwork.. not an irritating experience like I had with kira.

@darkmathijs... Its not just me.. he has been irritating a lot of players like this.. its time someone puts an end to this.. or he'll be ruining all the hunts.. its like he doesnt want to show what his spell damage can do..
or he'll be ruining all the hunts..

Huh??? I don't mean to insult, but I find this ridiculous! Has anyone else claimed they had their hunts *ruined* because in their *own* hunts, they had to kill all creatures and take all exp/fsp/$$$, while kira was buffering between his troops and enemies and taking all the damage???

I watched some of kira's fights. Some people were surprised, but rarely found them irritated! Even as she doesn't kill, she manages to shift the odds so that the hunter's side wins (there was one exception though). One person even gave her all the hunting loot (282gold) for her assistance! I think kira very smart! Very good tactician! I'd invite her to join my hunts, but I don't want to gain experience either (and one of the hunters has to)...

And you KingoChennai, are very *ungrateful*! It's not enough your hunting buddy uses his/her arts and money and time to make you win at NO benefit for them, you want them to also dance on the table for you??? Don't ever join my hunts, please! Thank you!
[Player banned by moderator Kotrin until 2010-03-11 08:26:25 // Please refrain from making comments here.]
he did some bad but makka is right, u got 95% xp and gold .if he wasent there all druids would have killed u but they didnt soo forget him :D and forgive him
[Player banned by moderator Kotrin until 2010-03-11 08:26:47 // Please refrain from making comments here.]
I think what he did was awesome for your part. you get the bulk of the hunt rewards yourself while he tanked the damage for you to kill. I don't know why you're complaining, this is what i find puzzling.
[Player banned by moderator Kotrin until 2010-03-11 08:27:08 // Please refrain from making comments here.]
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And btw, it is against the rules it is intentional loss o.o
The reason the she waited is that she doesn't want EXP!

she doesn't want to level up that's all
[Player banned by moderator Kotrin until 2010-03-11 08:27:51 // Please refrain from making comments here.]
And btw, it is against the rules it is intentional loss o.o
inentional loss?
But they didnt lose... they won the hunt....
i can understand why he's pissed, the guy just kept quite whilst he was talking to him. he should've let him know what he was going to do.
[Player banned by moderator Kotrin until 2010-03-11 08:27:33 // Please refrain from making comments here.]
And btw, it is against the rules it is intentional loss o.o
inentional loss?
But they didnt lose... they won the hunt....


precisely.. plus i don't think tanking damage for the team counts as an intentional loss..

i can understand why he's pissed, the guy just kept quite whilst he was talking to him. he should've let him know what he was going to do.

aye.. i do believe kira's intentions are good but i think he should've told his team mate what he's planning to avoid misunderstanding.. still, the battle is won, kira was able to help and kingo got lots of xp so i don't really see the point of the argument here.. we should all be happy IMO..
[Player banned by moderator Kotrin until 2010-03-11 08:28:11 // Please refrain from making comments here.]
it is very interesting)))
[Player banned by moderator Kotrin until 2010-03-11 08:28:27 // Please refrain from making comments here.]
kira is nothing but an irritant in this game.. someone who cant play this game in spirit.

The best scenario is ppl splitting the exp (faction, level and hunt). Kira just wants to get minimum exp with max hunter pts.. that is so selfish.. he gets to build a stronger char at the expense of others.. plain selfish..

@navi-something.. i give a damn to your views... I've never played with u and would never join such a fool who cant see the difference btw smart and good gameplay..

@kira.. wipe that smirk off your face..
The best scenario is ppl splitting the exp (faction, level and hunt).
Nice unprovable statement of YOUR taste.
kira is nothing but an irritant in this game.. -- unfounded statement

[...] someone who cant play this game in spirit. -- whose spirit? we all have our own different meanings of 'spirit', and as long as neither is illegal, I don't see why your spirit is better than mine (or anyone else's for that matter)

[...] wants to get minimum exp with max hunter pts.. -- erroneous. from https://www.lordswm.com/help.php?section=39 : In case of victory, the assistant does not get any gold, but does gain 0.1 hunt points

as concerns the combat_exp/fsp, they are in the same ratio as your ratio of combat_exp/fsp and the amount depends only on how much damage each has done. More damage you make more combat_exp and fsp you get, but the ratio combat_exp/fsp is the same with your hunting buddy that did no damage at all. For example, in your combat with kira you got combat_exp=1208, fsp=0.4, so ratio=3020. Kira got combat_exp=301, fsp=0.1, so ratio=3010 (the small difference between them just because of fractionary rounding)
As concerns the hunting points, yours are twice the fsp obtained, while your (guest) hunting buddy's is always 0.1 (if won the hunt). So basically more damage you make, more fsp you get ==> more hunting points you get. No matter how much damage your hunting buddy makes, their hunting points are always equal to 0.1 (as long as won the hunt)

Kira just wants to get minimum exp with max hunter pts.. -- unfounded and erroneous, as per above analysis. Kira's hunter points were 0.1 no matter how much damage she made.

that is so selfish.. he gets to build a stronger char at the expense of others.. -- unfounded. or at least explain how.

plain selfish.. -- unfounded and erroneous. as per above analysis, by letting you get more fsp, you also got more hunter points. On the countrary, I'd say she was *generous*: it would have made no difference for her hunter points weather she killed 0.01% of creatures, or 99.99% of them. And since it is more advantageous for your hunting points if she killed least, you should actually thank her!

@navi-something.. i give a damn to your views... - fair enough.

I've never played with u and would never join such a fool -- insult

who cant see the difference btw smart and good gameplay.. -- aren't these on the same side? Usually when you want to see a difference you contrast something good and something bad... Both these qualificatives smart and good are on the positive side. What is the point of seeing the difference between them?
You might also want to define what it actually *is* smart and good gameplay.. ... or maybe that is *your* gameplay by definition...
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