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Blindfold and Minor Tournament is feel to unfair coz the champ or who is winning on the minor tour is the one who has diamond upgrade.
Example, on level 9 become the first place on blindfold tour : you need diamond upgrade; for easy win on minor tour : you need diamond upgrade.
it seems very unfair to me, how about tournament that is not allowing using diamond upgrade? Maybe this is a good suggest, giving everybody chance to win... | | not to insult you, but diamond upgrades are exactly for that. People pay real money to have an edge over others. That's their reward for supporting the game. | | Diamond upgrades are alowed, and its not a cheeting. and no one can not say, its not alowed to use them, Some ppl donate money for game, and they get reward, and they use them as they want. So there is nothing to complain about, its fair game. | | well thats kinda why everyone buys diamonds so this would never happen or support for the game would drop | yes these tournaments are unfairs at some levels, but that's the game.
you can't ask to remove diamond upgrades from tournaments, else nobody would pay and the server would be closed.
you should just pass-by all tournaments when you are at an unfair level (3,4,6,7,9,11,13) and play them at levels where all players have the same chances (5,8,10,12,14)
and if you really want a fair tournament at level9, try to make an internal tournament with one of your clans, with no diamonds allowed (but you won't have gold reward and achievement in case of victory) | | Diamond upgrades are alowed, and its not a cheeting. and no one can not say, its not alowed to use them, Some ppl donate money for game, and they get reward, and they use them as they want. So there is nothing to complain about, its fair game. | Diamonds are allowed, it don't means that they are fair.
It's like if there was a new rule in chess: any player is allowed to pay 25 euros to play with 2 queens instead of 2 towers.
Players who pays would not break the rules, but their chess games against players who don't pay would be unfair.
It's the same here with diamonds: you don't break any rule, but you can't say that it's fair.
This game is unfair at every levels where diamonds users are advantaged.
Fortunately, at some levels, players who can't donate have sames chances than others. If you want a fair tournament, wait to reach these levels.
Or you can just accept to start with an handicap against diamonds players, and take it as a challenge ;)
Personnally, i love challenges.
The more an achievement is hard to reach, the more you can be proud of it :)
For exemple, i'm very proud of my hunt records at levels 6 and 7 without shrews. I'm proud of my other records too, but a lot less.
Other exemple:
I won the 12th survival tournament, but there were no diamond users. I was happy of my victory, but nothing exceptionnal.
I won the 13th survival tournament against a diamond user, and i was very proud of my victory :)
And if i had won a tournament with diamonds agains non-diamond users, or if i had break a hunt record with diamonds and/or with full enchanted artifacts, i wouldn't be proud of it, i would consider it as a normal victory, not worth to be called an "achievement". | @Dan-Panic
I know that, because of that i suggest for admin to make a new tournament that not allows to use DU, for giving everybody chance to win but not change the rule of tournament that already exist
@The_Devil ---> Diamond upgrades are alowed, and its not a cheeting.
Can u read??? Is there any paragraph that i wrote says DU is cheating??
Beside that learn more to write, cheating not cheeting...
@Karsot
Thanks for your support
@Cool_Guy
Same with The_Devil, read carefully... and learn more to write
@Admin
Please discuss these idea to all, i really appreciate if all the Admin willing to discuss even though its difficult to make such tournament...
Thanks | Majority of players at these lower-mid levels do not have diamond upgrades, only those few levels anyway.
Having diamond upgrades doesn't guarantee sure wins also, so in my opinion, everyone does have chance to win.
It's no fair, but so? No game is fair. | @Straws
Maybe you're right, everybody have chance to win but on certain condition like Karsot already explain.
-No game is fair???
Disagree with that, for example every sport game are built with rule to make that game is fair. If you say no game is fair, than there will be no World Cup at South Africa 2010. | If you say no game is fair, than there will be no World Cup at South Africa 2010.
Some countries spend more money on thier teams than others, Australia doesn't spend anywhere near as much money as say england or whoever is favorite, same here the more money you spend the easier it will be to get better players/ creatures, its all proportional just to use your example. | @nahdont
you're out of topic...
Just wanna say again, i suggest for admin to make a new tournament that not allows to use DU, for giving everybody chance to win but not change the rule of tournament that already exist.
Hope this idea clearly can be imagine by all players, please don't make wrong perception, it's fully only a suggestion. | for bloody_demonxXx:
Its not logic for the administration to actually 'remove' a possible way to get money in not allowing Diamond Upgrades in a tournment, or making a tournment where Diamond Upgrades arent allowed.
Some people just buy new Diamonds Upgrades and Diamonds to win those tournments, Administration wont at 99% take your idea into consideration. | Just wanna say again, i suggest for admin to make a new tournament that not allows to use DU, for giving everybody chance to win but not change the rule of tournament that already exist.
Not going to happen. That would be punishing those who do donate to get diamonds.Also as stated earlier, just because one has diamond upgrades does not mean he/she will win. | @Dan-Panic
I said a new tournament, and not change the rule of blindfold or minor tournament etc., that allowing use DU. I mean really really a new tournament, that different from all tournament that already exist. The tournament that already exist can continue as long as can be.
@Queen_Amanda
If you fell it would not be happen, so i just willing for Admin to read this suggestion, and the Admin can lock it after read.
Thanks all. | | I think you have missed the major point. Why would the devs spend their time and effort, creating something for people who give them no money? While this is a free game, their is a mechanism for the devs to get cash. Diamonds. If not enough diamonds are sold, they may stop the game. | @The_Devil ---> Diamond upgrades are alowed, and its not a cheeting.
Can u read??? Is there any paragraph that i wrote says DU is cheating??
Beside that learn more to write, cheating not cheeting...
Before I give my thoughts on your suggestion, I'd suggest that you refrain from chiding others on their writing skills. Your writing is filled with enough grammatical, punctuation, and spelling errors to make me bleed from the eyes. There are plenty here for whom English is not their native language. I'm guessing from your writing style and structure that it isn't your native language either. As long as you are able to understand the point being made, let's skip the grammar lessons ;-) On a related side note, I help several WG/WGW members with their English writing skills. I'd be happy to assist you as well (or anyone else for that matter, regardless of clan affiliation).
As for your suggestion... The whole point of Diamond Upgrades is to provide incentive for players to financially support the development of this game. There are no advertisements here and monthly hosting/bandwidth bills need to be paid. In exchange for providing financial support, players are given certain small advantages at certain levels. It would be fiscally foolish for the administration to create a tournament and bar their paying customers from using the advantages they paid for. It simply does not make good business sense.
Most of the tournaments involving player vs. player fighting are inherently unfair if you only look at the results of individual battles. For example, in the current minor tournament I am fighting as a might Necromancer. I do not stand a chance against Wizards or Elves, they will beat me every time unless they make horribly foolish mistakes. This would appear unfair if you look at an individual battle. However, if you look at the big picture, I am able to beat Dark Elves and Barbarians easily. It all balances out in the end and results in a tournament that is "fair". Try to see beyond the results of a single battle, or even a single tournament. | for Karsot, #7:
well, if it was a choice between playing against a person with better units, or having the server run out of money and die, what would you choose? | | just close this topic,they will not remove it,yeah its unfair i know. | for Jiang_Wei:
i don't think it should be closed just yet. it is a suggestion for another type of tournament. im sure diamond users won't care about not using their special units as long as they get another shot as the grand prize :P |
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