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Not so sure what you were trying to say here, you mean turning off gas :p

But still a little bit about something else I want to say ..... Any democratic country will never act through blackmail, extortion is part of Russia in mnogom.Naprimer .... they say if you neprodlite we rent the Black Sea Fleet in Sevastopol that we will 2-3 times rouse the price of gas and many other examples suschestvuet.Rossiya can not accept that the impact on countries of the former Soviet Union, it loses and starts deystvovat blackmail, and other non-democratic deystviyami.Chego only worth Rosiyskih invasion troops in Georgia, all of which deprives due to the fact that Georgia becomes NATO.V while NATO to Russia is the main enemy.
In Russia people are zombies ihnimi Government which has a permanent lie on TV and people believe im.V Russia is no democracy there is no truth, 'cause if someone is telling the truth on television and radio is on the next day to cover up those TV channels which opinion diverges so that said Putin and Medvedev.
My opinion should osteregatsya Russia because it is the chief aggressor, the aggressor is maybe more than terrorizm.I I am sure that Russia is helping financially teroristam.

Sorry for my bad English language: (but I think the essence, I said.

So I beg your pardon anyone offended by these words.
Democratic countries call it negotiation, not blackmail. Look at the history of Rooosevelt and the establishment of Panama and the Panama Canal Zone.

There are many more examples in the 20th century, but I wont go in to too much detail. Roosevelt is the perfect example.
There's really no point in comparing USA to Russia at least when it comes to democracy and freedom of speech. The whole of USA, every major news channel, newspaper and other media made publicly fun of George W. Bush and with good reason for 4 whole years!

Can you imagine something similar happening in Russia? No, most definitely not and not the least of the reasons being that there practically isn't any privately owned mass media to speak of. Every media outlet is owned and financed by the central government...

The amount of propaganda being spewed out by the Russian media would make anyones head spin. It probably even rivals the propaganda machine of China.
Russia's rulers are very similar to Stalin's rule of the tyrant who killed along with Hitler, millions of people from all planete.A in Russia was a public poll who you think is the most important person in the past century since Stalin won this oprose.Tak Now think where and how Russia will come with all this in ES.eto also that if Hitler was named in the European countries the best pravitelem.Mne pity that ordinary people as zombies in Russia throughout thislie negotivom and allow themselves to cheat.
The amount of propaganda being spewed out by the Russian media would make anyones head spin. It probably even rivals the propaganda machine of China.
What would make you think that the amount of brain washing and propaganda is to a lesser extend in other countries mentioned above? :) Remember the country which goes to war every 5 years, for a freedom or for the oil? or for imaginary weapons of mass desctruction.
Talking about the media, why bother? Every government is trying to have good image. How would it be possible father and son become presidents, call it free elections if you wish. Any media is controlled by the government to some extend. There were comedy shows about the politicians and the whole thing on TV prior to total government control of the media, it still did not make any or it did?

The thing is corruption is level is quite high in the modern Russia, no one diagrees on that one. Another thing is both countries are politically moving in opposite directions i.e the West towards socializm to some degree and Russia and other CIS members is at the peak "wild capitalism" with provetely owned corporations created during the Soviet era, i.e high small business barriers and lobbing regulations for themselves.
Russia's rulers are very similar to Stalin's rule
Examples here please

A in Russia was a public poll who you think is the most important person in the past century since Stalin won this oprose.
Source?

and how Russia will come with all this in ES
Well Baltic countries joined already and Ukraine was part of USSR, you think general public differs much?

Mne pity that ordinary people as zombies in Russia throughout thislie negotivom and allow themselves to cheat.
Sure they are... all of them. Let's look at so called orange revolutions all sponsored, all of succeed, some even twice - recent example. Great show, new hopes and expectations but we all know that living standards even worse then they were before, unemployment is higher.
The American elite have managed to control the media, but make it look free. It's so much smarter and cheaper than a hard core propoganda machine.

It doesn't matter if Bush is parodied all the time, if he and hs friends get the money and oil and to declare war when they want. You have Faux News accepted as a real news outlet, when it is just as biased as Al-Jazeera.

As Faux news is so far to the right, CNN and other news channels have moved from the centre to the right, to not look like left wing commies in comparison.
You have Faux News accepted as a real news outlet, when it is just as biased as Al-Jazeera.

Everyone and their grandma knows that Fox News is extremely biased and supports the republicans exclusively. But at least there are other news outlets who can call them out on their BS and openly confront them. Not possible in say Russia or China.

I totally agree that Faux News is just as biased as Al-Jazeera.
But at least there are other news outlets who can call them out on their BS and openly confront them. Still might get a bullet in the head for that matter :)
Still might get a bullet in the head for that matter :)

I suggest you checkout The Daily Show with Jon Stewart and watch the bullets/heads fly. Pure entertainment.
Rosiyskih invasion troops in Georgia

Georgia attacked first
I suggest you checkout The Daily Show with Jon Stewart and watch the bullets/heads fly. Pure entertainment.
Absolutely fantastic, cheers mate. He surely does have good points in his shows, quite fun as well.
Georgia attacked first

Seriously, thats a good one. REALLY a good one. Funny how you ate that story. :-)
Georgia attacked first

Seriously, thats a good one. REALLY a good one. Funny how you ate that story. :-)


I agree, this is a fine example of the mighty propaganda machine in all it's glory. The people just eat it up, I bet they can't get enough of it.
Georgia attacked first

Seriously, thats a good one. REALLY a good one. Funny how you ate that story. :-)

I agree, this is a fine example of the mighty propaganda machine in all it's glory. The people just eat it up, I bet they can't get enough of it.

i agree too
Have you ever imagine a Georgian army and the army of Russia?
At what should be a suicide from Georgia to attack Russia?
Just think for themselves, without preconceptions and without propaganda by Russian media.
It's been a bit abstract so far. I really can't see a Georgia v Russia discussion going anything but flames very quickly. Let this one be for a different forum on a different web site please.
It's been a bit abstract so far. I really can't see a Georgia v Russia discussion going anything but flames very quickly. Let this one be for a different forum on a different web site please.
u r a mod u can do whatever u want ;)
It's been a bit abstract so far. I really can't see a Georgia v Russia discussion going anything but flames very quickly. Let this one be for a different forum on a different web site please.

Please explain why we can not discuss it here? It's just for these topics and a forum.
i do not know ask barbarian ;)
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