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AuthorRenting equipment for very little
Should also be considered cheating?

With all the tournaments and battles... where some players wear full arts for like 300 gold in total, does not make sense to me?

Even if I buy alot of diamonds it will be impossible for me to keep up with those just, in reality just getting stuff, for those battles and tournaments where they can earn gold. These are offcourse ´friends´ of high lvl players... and until this is balanced out i wont make any sense actually spending gold on the game.

It wont even give you an advantage - and those being helped dosent have any reason to buy diamonds either...
And your suggestion is...?
That Renting equipment for very little Should also be considered cheating?
Please be more specific. You say that some players wear full arts for like 300 gold in total (as rent), are you sure? Then again, it IS possible, some players give discounts, some players are kind, level 1 players full art set (only shop arts) is wooden sword and round shield, 300 gold for rent is...possible.
And if you buy a lot of diamonds, you WILL keep up, trust me. You get new, better troops + more gold to rent this "300 gold total"
Please ask the person if it is really 300 gold, and please ask the renter as well. Or, at least, give us the profile of the renter or rentee, or the forum thread.
It wont even give you an advantage Give who? Me? I just rent the same arts - and we have the same advantage.
and those being helped dosent have any reason to buy diamonds either...
They do. Ever heard of theives guild? Diamond troops?
https://www.lordswm.com/forum_messages.php?tid=1838998

Now what the hell are you talking about??
Well i have seen lots of examples of e.g. one piece of equipment being rented for like 300 gold, and rest of the eight remaining piecies being rented for like 1 gold. Or just simply being rented all for one gold.

I havent saved all the examples of this. I posted some looong ago i belive and as they got 1 gold penalty i just didnt bother looking for those anymore but there are alot of them.

And yes without somekind of "guideline" for how kind you can be, or discounts... i guess these "transactions" are difficult to judge.

(for myself i am doing just fine but i can tell the difference clearly between those with alot of friends and those who has "none". The difference is i would say equal to using diamonds).

This is from the point that all players should be even, and e.g. battles should be decided on strategy, time dedicated to the game etc.

Friendly gifts etc. is fine and social fun but these should, as I belive not be able to account/help for max. 20 - 30 % of a chars economy. And from what i have seen i belive its more like 40-60 %.

Is there a need for swearing really?
if you are talking about any of my rentails, then plx take notice that they either owe me the money and pay them afterwards or it was unused battles :)
Pennywise - No wasent looking at you. I was doing the tournament... and just asked about the equipment (another subject) cause i couldnt find it.

I was merely saying that i have seen many logs like:

Equipment... for 1-3 battles normally - price 1 gold etc. etc.
I have seen this for main equipment for up to lvl about 9 generally.

So as far as i can see some players are invited and then rented equipment either for 1 gold many many times or extremely cheap.

If this happens friends in between, in clans etc. fine fine... (where this would save the recievee 30%) i am just saying that as far i see many players over-do it and they do in reality save the recievee for min. 40-60 % of all gold. So these players will have alot more gold than others.

Its an imbalance - i am pointing out. These can however easily also be viewed equal to one way gold transfers one could argue.

One way - and a way to improve the game i believe would be that the one who wants to rent to the "market" could set up shops. Where these would then be available to all and not just a selected niche. Like buying realty - you could purchase a shop :)

It would not require much coding.

A limit on transfers to friends, clanmates etc. could be set to limit the subsidising to approx. 30 %. Or the transfers players in between could be removed entirely and all transactions could be done via market.

The market timer would however need a random timer before post is made so the market cannot also be used in that fashion.

After all - in a "heroes" game people are supposed to train their heroes and not be raised with a babysitter?
[Post deleted by moderator Jedi-Knight // Off topic]
[Player banned by moderator Jedi-Knight until 2010-12-04 17:10:10 // Do not use the forums as a tool for begging.]
If you do notice any excessive rentals for very low and you feel it is beyond the rules listed for gifts and support Reference:(Rules 3.9, 3.11, 3.14, 3.15, 3.21) and common sense

Kindly report it in the Complaints and applications thread and let the moderators judge if the occurrence is legal.
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