| Author | [Update] Balancing |
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meteorite rain, chain lightning and sumon elementals will become weaker and teleport, blind and berserker will become stronger.
Bad for casters:( i am lucky i am not caster :P |
blind and berserker will become stronger.
good, maybe now we'll actually get to see someone use them :p |
| Good update so far that i see summon element imba. |
| Any unique racial abilities for might de?:) |
good, maybe now we'll actually get to see someone use them :p
still not quite useful... |
| I really don't wanna see level 5 magic school. |
Any unique racial abilities for might de?:)
Switch to magic... |
Switch to magic...
Nice abilities....posibility of switching ;) |
Any unique racial abilities for might de?:)
In HoMM5 DE racial was good for both might and magic
I am talking about elemental chains
Magic piercing was just a small side bonus |
At Heroes V, all factions are more strong at geral, the only exception is kight, here the talent cost so cheap and chambers make this faction more strong than normal...
Kight high level is a really nightmare.
But at geral all factions here are more "weak"
I don't see much diference with demons, they have some restrictions but have alot unique advantages so make equal. |
for Shaocan:
I don't see much diference with demons, they have some restrictions but have alot unique advantages so make equal.
You are joking right ?!
The faction statistics clearly show how "equal" the demon faction is. This is why only 8.8% of the players are playing as demon:
Faction Statistics
Knights 17.0%
Necromancers 12.2%
Wizards 12.9%
Elves 20.4%
Barbarians 11.2%
Dark elves 17.5%
Demons 8.8%
Also check out how "many" high level players chose to play as demon in the 3rd Mixed Tournament. And how many demons over all are in the top 100 in that tournament.
ON topic: From my point of view, demons are the first faction who needs a re-balancing. But this is out of our control... |
| even if demons are rebalanced that wont balance the numbers of people playing them with the other factions instantly. people who arent playing demons now have a lot of fsp else where and to start all over on a new faction at a high level would be very difficult for some. im not saying no one will switch but my guess is that people have found what style of play they like right now and are probably going to stick with it. |
| talking about faction balance by player distribution is not a good way. 20% players are playing elves, but can't say elf if the best faction -- instead, it's the faction that has the most "beautiful" units, whereas demon's troops doesnt look that great |
You are joking right ?!
The faction statistics clearly show how "equal" the demon faction is. This is why only 8.8% of the players are playing as demon:
Faction Statistics
Knights 17.0%
Necromancers 12.2%
Wizards 12.9%
Elves 20.4%
Barbarians 11.2%
Dark elves 17.5%
Demons 8.8%
Also check out how "many" high level players chose to play as demon in the 3rd Mixed Tournament. And how many demons over all are in the top 100 in that tournament.
ON topic: From my point of view, demons are the first faction who needs a re-balancing. But this is out of our control...
Huh?
What you are talking about dude? I was talking about uniques vantages on Heroes V and uniques vantages here like, the number of gating can be almost double than heroes V and don't need waste a good talent points for that, because you get it from racial skill points... And also if youre rich you can have +30% extra with demon set.
Thats not all, the devil tier 7 unit can gate heself, on heroes V he can only summon pit fiend if units die, and only at friend stacks and limited stack hit points to revive...
(It ins't bad, just at LoWM is better.)
So this is a advantage.
The unvantage is the chaos way ins't effective like Heroes V and also you can't be might and magic at same time to work 100% well.
But darkness hybrid build its a option. So have pros and counters...
Let me ask, why youre give me people count factions? |
all of the factions are balance. It depends on how we play them .. :) depends on the players .. :) Demons are full of melee .. people choose elves coz they have many shooters .. and they are the fastest ones .. :)
Many players have opinions that wizards, DE and elves are the best in hunts. But see Marked One .. he was the first to be level 10 of Demons .. and he started as a DE .. and see how many records he has made with demons .. :)
so once again, the point is that "how to play ur units", that's all .. :) |
I don't see any problem with demon fact.
The player make the faction not the faction make the player...
I can give a fast example like, i see two elvens on battlefield 2v2
One elven was playing tatically trying luring enemy, stoping enemy moviment, taking retalation attacking from behind, making group attack, he easy kill he opponet. but the outher elven was only doing shit. Making he own troops die
At the end of battle one elven take first place because he plays good, outher take last place because he plays wrong...
So elven faction is good or bad? Its is about a good player or bad player not good faction or bad faction... |
| I agree with @35 |
35 2011-06-23 20:02:00
all of the factions are balance. It depends on how we play them .. :) depends on the players .. :) Demons are full of melee .. people choose elves coz they have many shooters .. and they are the fastest ones .. :)
Many players have opinions that wizards, DE and elves are the best in hunts. But see Marked One .. he was the first to be level 10 of Demons .. and he started as a DE .. and see how many records he has made with demons .. :)
so once again, the point is that "how to play ur units", that's all .. :)
Hehe, as you point out, no one talks about the poor barbs at all except in laughter ^^ |
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I think that's the fate of the "second most unpopular faction" :p |
instead, it's the faction that has the most "beautiful" units, whereas demon's troops doesnt look that great
probably it has the most gay looking units...
demons have some kind of style, but this is only a personal perception.
in my opinion, the statistics don`t say anything. statistics show only facts, but not always you can draw conclusion from dumb numbers.
demons were introduced much later at the ru-server. many Russian speaking players came in May 2008 here to discover the new server. probably the faction was uncommon to most of the players, who didn`t know how to manage it, which tactics to use.
Elves 20.4% - it only means that elves are quite good for hunts. you don`t have to use your brain that often and you rely generally on luck/critical damage.
another point is that you don`t have to <switch> somehow for PvP, like warlock would do it after having been a might-DE.
agree with posts 32, 34, 35 and 36.
the ones who would really need some improvement are - barbarians and DEs, concerning the unique racial abilities. |
