| Author | Concern over new racial ability of Dark Elf |
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| The new DE Racial Ability depends on Knowledge and Spell! Doesn't it forcing indirectly Dark Elfs to chose Magic over Might, as Might DE willn't be able to gain advntg of theie racial for chosing Might! |
| might de wasn't able to use the previous piercing ability either. |
A faction is more than just unique ability
The balance is set up so DE is competitive as might
If they got a might UA as well they would need a decrease in troops or more expensive might talents |
still, if a Might DE, would invest 1/2 points in K and/or S then it would be suffcnt to attk some creature immune to magic! Maximum of the creatures aren't immune to magic, so PM was not MUST needed to wim a battle! Still, I suppose the New Racial would be better for Mage DE! But what about the Might DE?
If the racial had to be changed then wouldn't it be better to introduce something which would benefit both streams, like that of other factions! |
But what about the Might DE?
As I said b4 Might De is strong enough
But it could be fun to have won that benifitet both might and maig but then they need to
decrease in troops or more expensive might talents
as I said earlier |
you are right, but DE troop count is already less(though their smaller number is compensated with their strength), and might talent is quite expensive too!
I am not whining, but Wiz have the luxury to use magic as thier high number of troops! But DE can't enjoy that privilage! |
| Wizzy has the privilage of good chace to win in PvP as well as they are the best in hunts. Mage DE( or MDE) has str chance in PvP but I think they are the weakest in hunts. I see no point in this update other than unbalancing MDE more. I am not asking for something for might DE. I am asking for something for Mage DE in hunts exclusive. |
for vishnus:
Why? Mage DE are good in PvP. Might DE are good in PvP. Might DE are good in hunts. Mage DE are not good in hunts.
So you have 3 strengths and one weakness.
For wizard, Magic wizzy is good in PvP. Might wizzy is good in PvP. Magic Wizzy is good in hunts. Might wizard are not good in hunts.
So again, 3 strengths and one weakness.
Where is the unfairness in that? |
PoO are not free....
The problem I feel with update is :
Admins are making mage DE stronger in PvP where they are strong enough . So others who face Magi DE will feel DE as overpowered while Mage DEs wouldn't be happy either as the can never even hope of comming close to any record of might DE & having trouble in MC quests.
So you have 3 strengths and one weakness.
You can't compare like that. Magic & might can be viewed as almost diff faction.
& I wan't comparing DE & wizz . I was comparing Magic of DE & wiz.
Which is stronger in PvP? Magic or might wizzy (pitted against all factions) |
PoO are not free.... Well they certainly aren't expensive at the moment ;)
while Mage DEs wouldn't be happy either as the can never even hope of comming close to any record of might DE & having trouble in MC quests.
But most factions face the same problem - Might Wizzy cannot compete with magic Wizard hunt records and in most cases Magic necro cannot compete with might Necro records. |
Where is the unfairness in that?
The unfairness is that you're a little skewed in your assessment. Here's a better one:
Mage DE is good in PvP. Might DE is good in PvP. Might DE is SO-SO in hunts. Mage DE is not good in hunts.
Magic wizzy is good in PvP. Might wizzy is good in PvP. Magic Wizzy is AWESOME in hunts (and most other PvEs). Might wizard is not good in hunts. |
Mage DE is good in PvP. Might DE is good in PvP. Might DE is SO-SO in hunts. Mage DE is not good in hunts.
Magic wizzy is good in PvP. Might wizzy is good in PvP. Magic Wizzy is AWESOME in hunts (and most other PvEs). Might wizard is not good in hunts.
Why is faction hunt skill so important?
DE is in no way underpowered. When I play with a DE partner (both magic and DE) we are often accused of being OP, just shows how subjective these balance discussions are
I will say that the chaos added damage to neutral creatures should apply to all chaos magic (Demon, wiz and DE). But it is such a small part of this game so it is very far down on my personal wish-list |
DE are powerful no doubt, but so are all other! Eac of the factions are like Swords with same quality! He who wield the sword better will bring fame to that sword!
Although I personally believe that KNIGHTs are little overpowered, but again, it's only my feelings, and technically may be wrong! |
| Dzble- Lol I didn't know those portions are still available.... |
I will say that the chaos added damage to neutral creatures should apply to all chaos magic (Demon, wiz and DE). But it is such a small part of this game so it is very far down on my personal wish-list
"Small part of this game?" [chuckle] PvE combats vastly outnumber PvP combats, or are we talking about a totally different game here.
And wizard's bonus is not limited to chaos magic. Haven't you seen them magic-punch black dragons, for example? No magic piercing can top that.
I do not consider DE underpowered. However, whenever I look at them, I see a game design gone wrong. They are supposed to be the best at Chaos magic, but guess which faction casts a lot more lightning bolts than they do? |
"Small part of this game?" [chuckle] PvE combats vastly outnumber PvP combats, or are we talking about a totally different game here.
The only time you are competing against others in PvE is when they can level up in guilds race and events.
If they level up a bit after you in HG and MG what is the big harm?
Events are very rare!
So yes it is a small part of the game that ius decided who is stronger in PvP
I do not consider DE underpowered. However, whenever I look at them, I see a game design gone wrong. They are supposed to be the best at Chaos magic, but guess which faction casts a lot more lightning bolts than they do?
Where does it say they should be the best at chaos magic? |
| please stop saying might wiz is strong in pvp. |
please stop saying might wiz is strong in pvp.
It is not weak and it is one of the most interesting builds there is. |
go 15 switch to wizard might join cg and suicide.
people is comparing might DE to might Wizard LOL nonsense. maybe at lvl 5 they are similar |
go 15 switch to wizard might join cg and suicide.
There is many more levels than level 15 (many seems to forget that). And people always complain about balancing, and I think people should abstain from commenting on their own faction (if they think it is to weak) people are simply to subjective.
I ofc has not played against level 15 might wiz, so you might be right, but it is usually the case that they lack objectivity. |
