| Author | Illegal gifts +loans |
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player:https://www.lordswm.com/pl_info.php?id=4562381 Melnik
08-16-12 16:07: Transferred 1 Gold to 4ePHoMoPeLL, Commission charged: 1 : gift
08-16-12 16:07: Transferred item(s): 'Venomancer frock' [100/100] to 4ePHoMoPeLL
08-16-12 16:06: Transferred 300000 Gold to Risen_96, Commission charged: 3000 : podarok ya yxozhy
players recieved:https://www.lordswm.com/pl_info.php?id=4589967 4ePHoMoPeLL
https://www.lordswm.com/pl_info.php?id=4870867 Risen_96
also illegal loans
Received 450000 Gold from 4ePHoMoPeLL :
08-15-12 12:27: Transferred 500000 Gold to 4ePHoMoPeLL, Commission charged: 5000 : [censured] |
3.15. Presents must not exceed 10,000 gold * [Combat level of the grantor] + 250 * [Diamonds obtained by the grantor through donations] per month.
he has donated well over 1000 diamonds to game, so presents are probably acceptable.
3.14.1. Transfers made without comments are considered presents and fall under the rule 3.15. Commenting on all loan transfers is compulsory; returning owed property also requires a proper comment. If you intend a transfer to be returned, you must make a 1 gold transfer with proper comment to accompany your transfer, if necessary.
08-15-12 12:27: Transferred 500000 Gold to 4ePHoMoPeLL, Commission charged: 5000 : [censured]
it doesn't say loan, so it is considered under rule 3.14.1 and is a gift, and since we don't know exactly how many diamonds he bought, we can't determine if it is illegal or not at this point |
| How many it is necessary to return? |
3.15. Presents must not exceed 10,000 gold * [Combat level of the grantor] + 250 * [Diamonds obtained by the grantor through donations] per month.
Correct, but watch again,
08-15-12 12:27: Transferred 500000 Gold to 4ePHoMoPeLL, Commission charged: 5000 : [censured]
Even with 2000 diamons, this would be legal.
BUT in the same month
08-16-12 16:07: Transferred item(s): 'Venomancer frock' [100/100] to 4ePHoMoPeLL08-16-12 16:07: Transferred item(s): 'Venomancer frock' [100/100] to 4ePHoMoPeLL
Thats again about 500k and AGAIN;
08-16-12 16:06: Transferred 300000 Gold to Risen_96, Commission charged: 3000 : podarok ya yxozhy
So total of 1,3 milion GIFT.
3.15. Presents must not exceed 10,000 gold * [Combat level of the grantor] + 250 * [Diamonds obtained by the grantor through donations] per month.
If i'm not mistaken, 10.000 * CL 3 = 30.000 + +/- 250 * 2000 DIAMONDS = a total of 530.000 he can GIFT.
So to answer you're question for Risen_96:
How many it is necessary to return?
If I counted right, about 800.000 - 900.000 k? |
If I counted right, about 800.000 - 900.000 k?
He gave me 300k and I'll give him 800-900K))))) |
If I counted right, about 800.000 - 900.000 k?
He gave me 300k and I'll give him 800-900K)))))
Was mented for Melnik, not for you ;)! |
| With respect to violations of the rules net.On I put a lot of reals |
| 10.000 * CL 3 = 30.000 + +/- 250 * 3600 DIAMONDS |
With respect to violations of the rules net.On I put a lot of reals
Its not you're fault, as I said before, if there are any illegal transfers (we don't know fersure) it will be Melniks mistake, not yours. (If its true that you and Melnik aren't the same person) |
08-15-12 17:43: Received 450000 Gold from 4ePHoMoPeLL :
So gift is only 50k and not 500k. |
so it is 50k to 4ePHoMoPeLL
+ veno frock to 4ePHoMoPeLL
+ 300k to risen_96
total 750k
if he obtain 3600 as he said he can gift 900k so its my fault and i have to ask sorry
if not it is illegal |
Let me remind you the following:
3.15.1. Transfers for the reason of leaving the game etc. are forbidden. Empire is the only character for liquidation transfers.
podarok ya yxozhy
That means 'A present. I'm leaving' in russian. So it's obvious that all of these presents fall under the 3.15.1 rule and must be returned to the grantor either transfered to Empire.
This case is under investigation now. |
| closed by Lord cantbstopped (2012-08-17 13:53:10) |
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