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AuthorApparitions or Orc chiefs
Hi guys

I wanna know which will be better upgrade for ST's , not for PvPs , only for ST build in lvl 9

Should I get orc chiefs or appartitions in lvl 9?
I have already bought 22 diamonds , so wanna make sure which upgrade worth more

Im bit confused coz never played high lvls
Thanks in advance :)
Orc chiefs: 50% more HP , more damage , 1 ability not so useful in ST.

Apparitions: more than 100%+ HP , more damage , drain mana very good against caster waves.

Rest you decide.
orc's bloodlust is great in ST
For ST Orc chief's ofcourse
They have bloodlust which makes them gain 1 attack after every killed stack which is awesome for ST. I agree that appas have more health but for caster waves still orc chiefs are better because casters can cast on appas and bring them down before they have a chance to strike whereas with orc chiefs you will take damage from caster waves but you can kill them before they get a chance to kill you. SO in my opinion or chiefs are better than apparations atleast for Survival Tournaments they are.
dude dont talk about bloodlust as it is common to both orcs and chiefs.
I'd like to answer your question taking you more into consideration.

>>You have many medals as necro, but only 1 as barb.
>>You have good FL in necro, but not that good in barb.
>>If Orcs : Orc Chiefs = 3:4, Ghosts : Appas = 1:2.2
>>Orc Chiefs are very useful in ST as you can split them into stacks of 1 just for the purpose of knocking.
>>Drain mana is good in caster waves, but you have so many stacks, you can kill 3, weakening one. Appas you may split into 3 stacks, I don't think more. I'm sure they won't be able to kill the stack.

If you're going to continue Multi-Faction, I suggest Orc Chiefs are a better idea THAN Appas, however I strongly suppose you should save diamonds to buy Vampire Counts at CL 11.

Regards
I would give mi vote for appas. it will give you greater advantage against others necros st players with only ghosts.
If you play as a barb your advantage with orc chiefs will not be so obvious against barbs with simple orcs.
Im a barb and Orc chief are great but agree with velniukstis 100%

Also necro is your main facction , so improve you main faction first ;)
Well i gues you guys are comparing appa with chiefs

i wanna know if i do appa i will get more advantage against other necro players instead of doing chiefs or vice versa
as velniukstis said appas will give more advantage

any other's opinion?
lol R4in that's what I said,
I'd like to answer your question taking you more into consideration.
for narutoayan:
yes u did , but others didnt :)
I believe that orc chiefs are better than apps in ST but that will be looking at a wrong point since barbs dont fight necros but they compete against themselves so if you have orc chiefs you wont have a way superior advanatge over other barbs but if you have appas then you are way superior then other necros who use 8 hp ghosts without mana drain and weak damage...:)
They have bloodlust which makes them gain 1 attack after every killed stack

Btw, isn't there a cap of attack gained this way? I've read about Rage somewhere that total attack gain is not more than 2*your CL, is this true for Bloodlust too?
Btw, isn't there a cap of attack gained this way? I've read about Rage somewhere that total attack gain is not more than 2*your CL, is this true for Bloodlust too?

No, bloodlust is unlimited, in some Survival tournaments i ended with more than 150 attack on orc chiefs. ( even 175 attack i think )
ie. https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?warid=504560370
appa is too good to win medal for sure
as to what i understood
your problem is that you have limited money & you cannot get both the upgrades
so you want to get any one of them but see to it that you have a good chance of winning in a faction without an upgrade!
Answer: its best that you start collecting money for the upgrades
there is no other way you can win
n you cannot compare appa with orcs as they are one of the best upgrades for their faction!
good luck!
I'm barbarian type

Yet... my choice for u is appa
Change orcs to chief is great
but it's not as good as ghost to appa
Post 7 is absolutely correct. Apparitions are a much greater improvement than orc chiefs are for survival tournaments.
I would suggest to upgrade to Apparitions
i agree with people who say appas, if you get them you will survive sooo much longer then other necros :)
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