| Author | thief guild-diamonds or gold? |
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I am planning to get a TGI by lvl 13. The problem is i heard that wiz is kinda bad at TG. Mage arts are expensive and might wiz is not really that effective. I am considering two options:
1. Buy TGI with gold and get genies upgrade and do TG as might battlewiz/ wiz
2. Buy TGI with diamonds and change faction without a DU
Which one is better and why?
Thanks in advance |
Tbh if you begin TG at lv 13 it will be WAY too difficult at the beggining, unless you lose in Min AP a lot to lower the difficulty.
In the other hand, I dont see why you should try with another faction buying Diamonds, PLUS the fact that in the other races you have less FSP (Meaning Less Ini of troops, less Atk n less Def).
Honestly, I find Wizard a very very strong faction, and apparently you have a lot of experience with it, just buy the TGI with gold and try it with Wiz.
PLUS: You have a little FSP in every other race, so you'll have a 6-9% Resistance against their dmgs.
Tl/Dr: Just chill and try it with the Wizard faction, you can lose to reduce difficulty if you want.
And sorry if I made it too long btw. |
well diamonds are friggin cheap now days like 4 times less than in back old good days, but always MIN ap, used to do full ap each with naapa than this and its baciacly just waste of money and eventually you get to same as with min ap you cant win all.
so whatever you decide just min ap it even tough it hurts to lose and lose but if you rly cant afford buying lot of diamonds in long run its pointless to full ap I'm pretty damn sure if you lose enough you can win with wiz too tough i recommend de if you rly wanna punish caravans and if you got coin to spare ladons are absolutely best thnik ever done to lvl 13 tging.. |
| oh and to answer your question its 2 since wiz just sucks at tgi that no diamond uprage will cover it.. |
Opposite opinions, I like it))
I honestly think it all comes down to how is your economic situation and the "Effort" that will cost you to buy these Diamonds. |
You don't need a DU to ace in TG. A simple full castle of your level should suffice :) But anyways even if wiz do indeed perform badly in TG (I honestly have no idea on this), just lower their difficulty and sooner or later it'll be doable.
IMO don't change faction just yet, try it first hand and see how it goes, you never really know how it is until and unless you experience it personally and besides as Ipsen said in post 2, Less Ini of troops, less Atk n less Def. Those small little extra stats matters a lot especially when you're doing TG in min AP. |
| Buy TGI with gold/diamond and do TG as a Battlewise Wizard. Be sure to take Lodestone golems. Don't worry much about which faction is better, just focus on your game and do whatever you find entertaining. |
your fsp is good, keep playing as wiz.
don't play magic build except you get max ap which is too costly.
play as might battlewiz, get fortune genies DU if you can.
split 3 fortune genies to use luck change (3 turn is enough).
genies is your core unit, it fast and often one-shoot enemy core stack.
happy thieving :D |
| I don't think wizard is bad at TG, at least not at your level. I think you should try to get a TGI as soon as you can because the sooner you start TG, the better. And stick with wizard for TG, your wiz FL is much higher than any other of your factions so you'll do best as wizard. |
2. Buy TGI with diamonds and change faction without a DU
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| An addition to my above post, If you go for TGI using diamonds then you will get nice exchange value for the diamonds spent. |
As a fellow Wiz,
Wiz isn't that bad at tg ,
Buy Tg with diamonds if you can , then you get profit from TGI and you get to keep your 300k
Unless you plan to do in max ap , Play as Battle-wise
DU for genies isn't going to be that helpful in solos , in double ambush that might be different(i'm not sure)
At first it'll be hard so lose some to balance it out and in the end wiz is a very reliable faction if you have the patience and technical aspects of the game :D |
wizard is great in TG, especialy after level 14.
stick to double ambushes, gives better fsp (for same art cost)
min art ambushing is sorta dead, cant get reduce if beaten too badly - which will be the case most of the time. think wizards has some chance with lower AP's than other races. still, imo, go with mid AP or better.
if its an option, buy TGI with diamonds ;) |
So buying TG with diamonds is better than with gold? Yes, i can afford it.
jz that i was thinking that TG should be better in lv 13 when i have fortune genies.
I will stick to wiz but not sure if i should get it with diamonds or gold and when to do so. Any advice and why?? |
| when to do so.6 levels ago so i dont see any point on waiting, and ofc with diamonds since normally 1 diamond is worth 2500. now you get with 80 around 450000gold neabibg your diamond is worth 5625 gold each. |
| neabibgmeaning* damn what an typo.. |
I think thieving with low Ap is fine and a better option for wizards-
For a guaranteed amount of FSP for lowering difficulty there is always the classic wiz - runing garg tactic. Low attk and defence is only an issue if they can hit you. I'll grant you it does make your battles a lot longer which is a touch on the annoying side.
With regard to diamond upgrades - there is a big difference between normal genies and their upgrades - When I was level 13 I didn;t bother with battlewise as their success is too dependent on genies - and with normal ones it is a big drop off.
Therefore if you can afford a diamond upgrade for genies I would consider it. |
Buying TGI with diamonds is the best investment you can do in terms of gold/diamond. I would spend the diamonds at a TGI and use the gold for better arts to win.
You will need 2 wins and 3 losses to keep the difficulty at the same level. You need to get a decent amount of FSP for the loss to give the expected decrease in difficulty. Prepare for many boring losses... |
| well tgi is meant to be grindy as hell for people who aint rdy to invest rl money to game tbh |
definitely get TGI with diamonds. best investment you could make.
DU gives roughly 2.5k gold per diamond (same as just exchanging diamond for gold). given the market price of TGI, you will get much more out of your diamons after you reach TG5 and get your own TGI.
as for wiz being weak at thieving, that's nonsense. classic wiz is great for thieving and it's better than battlewiz IMO. the only disadvantage is that your average ambush will take longer time to finish compared to might factions.
as for AP, i suggest start with min ap and slightly increase your AP amount (by around 10-20%) every time you level up in TG or CL.
the only DU that i recommend you definitely get for wiz is sphynx at level 15, otherwise just ignor DUs. |
