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unsigned multi/financial assist/unreturned loans



Authorunsigned multi/financial assist/unreturned loans
Main:
https://www.lordswm.com/pl_info.php?id=6739494
Past multis:
https://www.lordswm.com/pl_info.php?id=6732537
https://www.lordswm.com/pl_info.php?id=6784633
A new multi created after the others are blocked:
https://www.lordswm.com/pl_info.php?id=6807887

Looking at combat and Tavern logs:

1. Combats never overlap
2. Tavern games never overlap
3. One character will join combat/tavern game immediately after the other stops.
As for enroll, it is very easy to open new browser/window to enroll with multi while waiting for opponent/teammate turn, he can even play multiple combats this way.

4. Both have similar transfer activities:
Acquiring resources through market instead of map
A lot of market use for newly registered players

5. Both donate, that is good)

6. Both give similar insults:
https://www.lordswm.com/cgame.php?gameid=73433267
in personal info: https://www.lordswm.com/pl_info.php?id=6807887
https://www.lordswm.com/cgame.php?gameid=71439839
https://www.lordswm.com/cgame.php?gameid=71810190
https://www.lordswm.com/cgame.php?gameid=71826252
https://www.lordswm.com/cgame.php?gameid=71826580
PM' sms_id=410367605

7. They both love group combat with similar levels, so if they are such good friends, then why don't they combat together? Loan so much gold for complete stranger?

As for the loans:
3.15.2. Presents must be properly signed at all times by transferring 1 gold with proper comments. Otherwise, the transfer is considered loan and must be returned within 1 month (ref 3.14.).
3.17. The Administration does not take responsibility for the unreturned debts and does not guarantee compensation in case of swindling by other players; as well as in case if the debtor has been blocked. When a loan is not returned in time, (the time must be written in the transfer logs, no more than a month) the swindler will be imposed a penalty of a sum twice as much. If the term isn't posted in the transfer logs, the penalty will occur 1 month after the loan transaction. The creditor does not get compensation.
https://www.lordswm.com/forum_messages.php?tid=1871437
His strategy is to loan with multi, then it is blocked and he never has to repay the loan=Free financial assist.
Unreturned loans:
2016-02-23 08:45: Received 40000 Gold from ?????????
2016-01-02 23:03: Received 7000 Gold from ???????????
2016-01-02 21:23: Received 7000 Gold from ???????????
2016-01-02 13:05: Received 6000 Gold from ???????????
2016-01-02 12:58: Transferred 12000 Gold for ???????????, Commission charged: 120
2016-01-02 12:37: Received 13000 Gold from ???????????
2015-12-19 04:28: Received 22000 Gold from ?????????????
Total penalty: 83000*2=166000
I wonder if this is the main?
https://www.lordswm.com/pl_info.php?id=6654522
All logs so similar with no overlaps, except insults and donations are the only difference, I suppose to prevent the main from being penalized/blocked?
If so, then the others are unsigned multis and should be blocked, and the main should pay all of their insult fines or be blocked as well for constantly violating the rules.
IP needs to be checked for all of these and any other possible multis.
Post 2 was made hastily and is probably wrong, so please delete if it is wrong.
I change my mind, look into the character in post 2. Main:
https://www.lordswm.com/pl_info.php?id=6654522
Multis:
https://www.lordswm.com/pl_info.php?id=6739494
https://www.lordswm.com/pl_info.php?id=6807887
Blocked multis:
https://www.lordswm.com/pl_info.php?id=6732537
https://www.lordswm.com/pl_info.php?id=6784633

The elf main logs in to play tavern tourneys when the other two cannot afford to do so. He seems to keep his elf main free of donating so that he cannot be caught, since donating for his main would reveal that they are all related.

Two of them have played cards against each other (easy with different browsers).
Look at how suspicious these games are:
https://www.lordswm.com/cgame.php?gameid=73195163
https://www.lordswm.com/cgame.php?gameid=73434096
These games are clearly a test to better understand how cards are dealt in tavern.

It looks like he started playing as elf. Then, after incurring penalties for insults, he decided to start over with a new faction, DE. He donated to speed the building process, and created more multis to financially assist the new DE. Unfortunately he did not learn his lesson and continued to insult others with the new DE.
Now, fines and gambling losses have left his DE financially destitute, despite donations and illegal loans from multis. His barb multi is broke, too.
So, back to playing as the only character with money, his original Elf, now armed with the tavern insight he learned by playing against his barb multi.

So many rules broken here. The multis need to be blocked and the main needs to be fined for all of his multis' insults. Also, fines for playing in tavern against his own multi for money and to increase his odds of winning a tavern tourney, both being financial assists.
Ok, I think I finally have confirmation that they are not the same player. Kindly delete posts 2 3 and 4, and heavily fine/block these two
https://www.lordswm.com/pl_info.php?id=6739494
https://www.lordswm.com/pl_info.php?id=6807887
for financial assists, unreturned loans, multiple tavern insults/rudeness, vulgar messages in their personal information, and anything else I may have forgotten.
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