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@Techy
Tech...you truly are a machine bro...
Yea yea I got it DAD I KNOW these things that laborer guild thing is a time of effort though don't you see my labor guild level? Don't you see my FSL is 7 and im CL 8? Don't you see my Hunt guild is just about 5??
Technically I am pretty well balanced in HG and FSL for my level. In fact I am actually above average I am pretty confident to say with most players my level.
Most PRO players will spend MASSIVE amounts of non battling to just UP their labor guild super high and get their hunt and FSL up for the int% and att/def bonus perks it gives.
My only weakness is that "You have no guild development whatsoever" lol
I KNEW that it was a problem, but I just haven't been able to gauge by myself HOW big of a disparity it is not to have any additional factions built up.
Basically I just kinda was winging with the idea that: "I get my FSL in my CL Elf so high, higher than MOST...then I will be fine."
NOT SO!
I guess if I deliver a couple factions some development...
With my Elf FSL being already pretty high...
I should be able to stand on more steady legs.
@Majid005
YOU are speaking my language! Knew I had not to be the only one seeing something which is obviously fragmented with this picture.
I understand you on the charmer elf, as I contemplate here or there if I really should try and give them a go...but I really just like my classic elves as they are just my guys you know. They are my crew. I'm sentimental like that *sniffs* ha
Chaos magic is powerful, and the imbue arrow is definitely a BLAST! of righteous wrath for all the wrong done to the elves. Talk about factual racism LOL. Though it allows them to actually break ground on the battlefield which is really what I am talking about. Elves have a great difficulty in map control.
They gain spell power over time which is another great benefit as once again they are even lower than the classic elves in #numbers. They definitely need rally to say the LEAST.
@Majid005
Wow! I'm saying! I know exactly the feeling of seeing them charging down the squares as you put in into golden words: "One notices that orcs turn arrives sooner than elven archers..."
Basically handicapping elves from the START of the match already.
Yes, the EFK's and the Unis are a 'great, great' benefit and much needed, but they are not the brawling machines they need to be to inflict the damage needed to FIGHT.
If Unicorns had the benefit of an increased recruit count, THAT ALONE would solve most problems elves have, as a well-timed luck driven blow from a Dwarven U-BEAR can outright KILL a full stack of Unis. The elves MAIN TANK UNIT
Where is the sanity in that. Efk's defense is just as shabby as their lower cousins the FKs and disgracefully they walk around with their shirts off because they think they are still in the trees hiding and shooting arrows at people passerby...
No no, it's a bug eat bug world out there and elves need more DURABILITY
I can't even get a good talent combo because all I can afford is luck luck luck.
I would LOVE to have rally,basic luck but LWM will not allow such for the elves as they think THEY will be too powerful then.
And they ignore the big Barb bully with the stone club standing right next to the smallish elf...
Or the HUGE BEAR riding in behind brawlers who can race RIGHT UP to your defensive line and take out key stacks numbers. THEN they resurrect. THEN they attack twice rune of crusade, mayhem. WOw the list goes on...
Chargers gain ignore defense as they come, Shrews initiative allow glancing blows CONSTANTLY as they run around the field, shamelessly whoring with everyone until they are taken out painstakingly.
I can go on but will stop... | If I were you,
I would start to save up for thief guild invite, the +1% initiative reward there will be useful, you need about 490k for an invite.
I would also work on my mercenaries guild and watchers guild, enrol more and maybe think about building some of the other castles to raise your resistance (reduce damage taken) From the other factions).
I say this because I left it quite late to make other castles (CL13 or so) and so it's quite expensive for me to raise my FSL.
As a friend, I would advise against you doing group battles because they give a bad ratio of fsp to xp (if you want a strong character you should avoid, if you only want to have fun, then go ahead my friend), when you hit CL 9 you can join commanders guild, which offers a much better ratio. | [Post deleted by moderator Lord Syrian // Pointless, offensive]
Player banned by moderator Lord Syrian until 2017-01-18 05:18:18 // Provoking | What I am saying is, everyone here knows, and reconciles that elves are pretty in pink.
YOU know that. That is why most players will play the elf just to buff their resistance and then go back intelligently to the more beefy race factions.
No doubt I am not a wimp, nor am I a stump with forrest gump on a log.
Since CL's 1-4 don't count I will give the summary of my battle log from CL 5.(Like anyone cares)
My battles thru CL 5-6 were good. BALANCED. Everyone had just about tier 2? is it? or tier 3 creature stack that enabled all of us to have some fun with new firepower, but soon after CL 6...some things started to turn real ugly.
I had to change up my strategy, as we all do each new level but, REALLY...I had to do something different. Dwarves were becoming a real problem at this point. Wizards? ZZZZzzzzzzz wow don't get me started.
How can anyone justify that wizards are not technically immortal at CL 7-8?
I mean yes, they are beatable but by the River Styx you need to bring your game to the table.
Elf beating wizard CL 7-8? Narrow as the Strait of Gibralter
Basically with 13 SP and 60-80 mana they are virtually able to decimate your archers, WITH their magi...who btw possess their own magicka that is absolutely detrimental, and they have JUST the right amount of HP to make them annoyingly stubborn. You have to decide...should I take out magi? or should I go Gremlins? Wait! the gremlins have such a high powered capacity fire that they should just call it a submachine gun...
They go first by the way, and you know that means bybye bows!
Oh wait NO! go for the magi first!
ZAP! That's the sound of their PENETRATING ranged damaged that 'lights' up EVERYONE in a 3x tile radius dealing substantial damage to defensively weak units. Let's not mention any names here...;
This hypothetical can get long so...
Oh wait Rocs! Ogres! Chieftains! Goblin archers! Boars! oh my
Dark elves don't even have range too much at the lower cl levels unless somebody wants to get fancy and load up on poisoners, but they STILL manage to get IN and get OUT, they have the hp to do it. Slow coming...but they come.
I want to really just make the case that it is really unequal that Unis are given only "8"
8! That's it! Where is the manpower...I mean, HORSEPOWER
That's shameful number tallying, and the bows don't make up for it. Neither do the efks
The main theme here is: Shouldn't Unicorns have more units?
I would like to say that that would actually be a fair and equitable stance?
One that wouldn't push too many buttons, or unjustly IMBALANCE the status quo would it?? Sounds perfectly reasonable to me. And not so far-fetched at all.
It really would freshen up the battlefield with some engaging and fresh fights where map control can actually be held and contested fairly.
How does that sound. | | Topic moved from "Queries and help" to "General game forum". | The main theme here is: Shouldn't Unicorns have more units?
That's a valid idea. You could try posting that in the Ideas and Suggestions part of the forum so that other players can give their feedback. Jus suggest the number of unicorns that you think elves should have and let it go from there. If it gains enough support, the Administration might have a look at it. Good Luck :) | Thank you. Honestly, that sounds like a great plan.
Thanks for the validation...needed that lol.
Sorry administration...
Sometimes I get carried away, and make things more than need be, or place things in the wrong area I guess...I really thought it was a query.
Well! Lets GO! | DISCLAIMER 1: I have not read fully any of the posts, just glanced through very quickly. :)
DISCLAIMER 2: My post is not directed at any one in particular. Just a general observation of this topic. )
There's no such thing as a 'weak', 'best', 'worst' etc, faction. If so, ALL of us would be playing/not playing that faction.
Putting the individual skill level of a player aside, each faction, **at each range of combat levels** is more suited for certain types of battles.
Example [may not even be true]: A Knight at certain level may sucks in ambushing, group battles, but may excel in hunts, merc quests, etc.
or Tribal may sucks in hunts, but they are pretty good in group battles if paired with certain factions/builds, and certain types of merc quests.
So don't lose heart if you find a certain faction 'sucks' at your current level, they may turn out to be really strong at higher levels.
PS: In the current war that's going on now between many clans, Elves [with the right arts, talent and skill level] more or less rules over all other factions. :) | for Sir Jedi Knight:
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+1 on all.
Dedrago: allow me to be straightforward. You are prolix. You write too much, to say too little.
result, a big TL;DR that doesn't help either you nor people that try to answer you.
Try to be shorter and to the point.
Your fight was bad.
Happens.
It's your job to study it, and try to learn a lesson from it.
Beside that, everyone else told you, enhance your guilds, because a lvl 8 with only 15 fights in merc, is a bad character. That's in a nutshell.
Now for my 2 cts: elves have low HP, yes, and Lucky that. They are swift, and Deadly, so if you want to make the most of them, you need to move first, and have your turn faster and more often.
That's the key to success, now understand it or forget it. | For any build, Elf doesn't have the lowest HP among all factions, not to mention the charmer elves who have a tremendous boost at HP.
So shut up and stop whining.
Player banned by moderator MrBattleControl until 2017-01-20 13:28:37 // Forum Rule 4.6# Insulting (Warning) | | Elf is useless at all levels before 11. Once u get treefolks, then with fast shooters, U can take down enemies and use treefolk to hold warriors when they r near shooters so u can finish them off. easy. | @GuyB
You just can't read well lol
@SwiftGirl
Wow, I never even talked to you before so I am not even going to bother with it. Nice to meet you too. Bye | @SwiftGirl
LOL try and be harsher next time...you might actually get a rise outta me. | @Guyb
Not everybody thinks the same about my posts as you do so go dump icy cold water on your head I was done with this thread and you come in to chime your useless advice that doesn't help anybody
"You fought bad, fight better"
"It's your job to learn it. Learn it"
"Enhance yourself, that's it in a nutshell"
"Elves are fast, have your turn first"
"Understand it or forget it"
How's that for concise? Like concisely horrible advice
What happens when you don't go first?
There are so many holes in your logic you might as well be 50 cent and I am not going to divulge as you are not trying to reason with me, more like insult me. So goodbye. Why do you keep following my post? I liked what Sir Jedi said and I left it at that. Thanks, but no thanks for you input. Really helped me out.
@SwiftGirl
Oh yea the girl...or not the girl stop telling people to shuttup. You wouldn't like it if somebody told you that in your post, and you probably would be very butthurt about so, if you have nothing constructive to say...as I wasn't talking about charmer elves in the first place...once again...A GOOD BYE | @Seanckx
Makes sense thanks.
@Sir Jedi Knight
I meant to reply to you earlier and say that that was great material and I can understand where your alluding. Thanks for your help. | @guyb
And just to say lastly there are PLENTY of people! We are talking who 'just' turned CL 8 who have NO exp in the Mercenaries Guild! How many people can you click on in this game who are below CL 9 have high MC guild levels??? What in the world are you talking about. Like, that will turn the tide of battle because you did. It takes a lot of battles to get to that 2 and 3rd level in the MC guild just to take advantage of a point in parameter and I doubt many, many lvl 6 or 7's will have even just a lvl 2 MC guild level. Bugger off man!
Like, just because I turned lvl 8 and I don't have 300 MC points I am bad??? You are the most obtuse awkward person I have been speaking to in here, since you wanted to get all high and mighty on ME...never even insulted you before you insulted me. If I could meet you we would have a nice coffee and chat about this like men.
I am done with this post if you are done. If you want to keep going well fine you aren't helping and you are actually making it worse! | Guy B blocked me because he couldn't handle these posts to himself. He got very agitated at them, they affected him very deeply so he sent me a private message also. I won't reveal what he said as I am not that callous but it goes to show you that some people cannot take criticism or just have the plain decency to agree to disagree politely. But "They" can give out as much criticism as they wish...
He told me he had went through ALL my post, just so he could find some type of contradiction between the HUGE amount of writing I have done here in the last couple days publicly.
I am NOT god, and 'anybody' who expresses their opinion can sometimes find some sort of error here or there, so I you really must judge it by the quantity of their speech if you are REALLY looking for contradictions as over time you can say a "vast" amount of people contradict themselves MANY times in their life...
There are too many words to try and really just zero in on a couple mistakes, and for you too RESEARCH my whole entire documentary shows just how butthurt you got and and had to go Sherlock Holmes style just to try and discredit me.
So...you read ALOT of my posts, "now" that you had gotten thoroughly trounced...ONLY so you could disprove me, while at the same time...."Mindlessly" reading it only for errors and 'completely' ignoring any of the information regarding if their is actually any valid ideas or concepts I was referring too.
You basically were just looking for mistakes that's all...good use of your time, as I do have ALOT of words here brother.
Guyb you can't get mad and then send me a message saying where you tell me all you want to say about me, and then block immediately afterwards so I cant reply. lo......l. That's to rich man, your awesome...really.
All I want to say is have a good life man. ALWAYS remember....you insulted me first.
Player banned by moderator MrBattleControl until 2017-01-20 19:37:11 // FR 4.1,F.R 2.2,L.R 3,L.R 8# Please stop posting ignoring all the rules. | 2017-01-18 01:36:48The main theme here is: Shouldn't Unicorns have more units?
That's a valid idea. You could try posting that in the Ideas and Suggestions part of the forum so that other players can give their feedback. Jus suggest the number of unicorns that you think elves should have and let it go from there. If it gains enough support, the Administration might have a look at it. Good Luck :)
I moved it to ideas and suggestions, and then got an automatic reply saying "stop putting things in the wrong place or your banned"
THANKS. Real cool as I was only taking advice.
Anyway...Guyb, SwiftGirl,_Sworks_, people who just insulted me needlessly, all who think this a game...it's not, I am deadly serious, although I am willing to store a nut instead of eating it all right now...if you get my meaning.
I do not wish to go on forever, especially if no one with the good sense of higher authority is listening.
I am not a parrot.
Just trying to create lively valid discussion to better the game.
Is that so bad, if it is well then wallalabingbang people...
We have just went Corporate. Too good for the little guys now yeehaw.
I love writing people, I think I need to channel it into something more constructive. Something where it's not a game that doesn't really care about your opinion if you actually have a good idea.
For I say if you can two or three people in an impersonal forum just as this too agree with you over something so controversial...then that means you 'probably' have something on your hands.
But if that is constantly beaten back by hordes of players who just like to bandwagon with each other and be on the winning "sensible" side...
You can't progress. Life is all about evolution, creation...not stagnant oppressive mindless repetition. How would we express ourselves individually?
Come on people, lift your heads up...see what's going on.
And in the end...if nothing can really be done. Lets wash our hands, shake and get over it. It's not that big of a deal, it's a game. Though everything is a game, they say life is so you can take it seriously just choose wisely what those serious issues are. Don't be a maytr for Mcdonalds unless that TRULY is your passion ROFL. Laugh at yourself.
BE FREE!!! | This is funny :)
I definately think there should be more unicorns, just in life generally. Think of how many happy small people there would be, and I would love to see the face of some nasty predator get faced down by some raging unicorn. A can just imagine a phalanx of guardian unicorns protecting all their hernivore bretheren across the mighty plains of Africa.
Of course there should also be more unicorns as troop count in the game. I vote for a definate increase for every level. Of course what I mean by this is that every time you level, you should get more unicorns, well mostly anyway.
What you need for a race of elves, is to have lots of super creatures that are not thems(elves) elves (see what I did there, man I am clever). I dunno like horses with pointy bits. That way if you increase that bit more it will fit more with the origin of elves, in how they are immortal and totally rule over all other creatures. I mean you cannot have them be killed by any other race that are clearly less awesome them then. I dunno like for instance orcs, they are dumb and stupid they cannot beat elves. ITs not like they were formed from corrupted and defiled elves by the Dark lord or anything Some vibe like that would never fits with the mythos.
So all vote for more unicorns to make elves more elvey. And if we cannot get that, get Elvis, he as close as we can get. | Com'on people!
Vote! |
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