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Creatures with this ability would retaliate against attacks on it before the attack itself.
But in the below link, the tiger retaliated only after the attack from tribal goblins. Why is that?
https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?warid=841874044< |
Hello Yuvraz,
It's likes first strike ability. Meaning, they retaliate before the attack begins.
This is my humble opinion based of what I've seen.
Good luck.
HM |
In addition,
Taken the following information From Angels & Demons forums:
Concentration
This creature retaliates against attacks on it before the attack itself, even if the attacker has 'No Retaliation' ability.
http://angelsndemons.freeforums.org/5-creatures-troops-faction-hunt-and-neutrals-t69-10.html |
Yeah, if the creature has not unlimited retaliation talent, it works just for first attack.
For that reason creatures with unlimited retal are great for this talent, they realiate every attack and twice (before attack and after attack)... |
It's likes first strike ability. Meaning, they retaliate before the attack begins.
Yes I understand how the ability works, but Tribal goblins were the first to hit tigers - Meaning tigers should have retaliated even before the goblins have attacked but that did not happen. Tigers retaliated only after goblins have attacked. Isn't that contradictory for concentration ability? |
for Yuvraz:
If tigers retaliated before goblins attacked then the goblins would never be able to attack because of cowardice. So i guess its some priority issue. |
for virtual_vitrea:
Yes, I was thinking the same. But can you say for sure?
Are there any other priority issues like this? |
Yes, I was thinking the same. But can you say for sure?
Can't say for sure but it seems likely to me.
Are there any other priority issues like this?
One existing example i can think of is right away is how wolf riders cant double strike twice on the goblins or centaurs because they would run away.
There can be many possibilities with the large number of individual abilities this game has and some of those interactions may not be discovered yet. So you have found one such interaction :) |
| This is the kind of thing they should ask in the sphynx quiz :P interesting stuff |
| Yeah they should really update the sphynx questions. |
One existing example i can think of is right away is how wolf riders cant double strike twice on the goblins or centaurs because they would run away.
That was predictable easily. :D
Can someone send me a link to another battle where the same sort of thing happened to creatures with concentration ability so that we can be sure about this priority issue?
This is the kind of thing they should ask in the sphynx quiz :P interesting stuff
That would be one hell of a question XD |
| But if goblin is in corner and no place to escape then what? |
| I mean in such case tiger will retaliate before or not? |
| I believe in the case of a stock goblin then the goblin will retaliate. :) |
I mean in such case tiger will retaliate before or not?
Ideally, they should. I say this because based on my understanding of cowardice, a trapped unit with this ability behaves like any other normal unit so the same rules would be ideal.
But for the actual answer, it would depend on the specifics of coding.
Possibility 1 - the admins realized this interaction, tested it and intended for the two abilities to work like this. If this is true then i would bet that they must have thought about the familiar scenario of trapped goblin attacking a concentrating stack and that would allow them to choose the ideal function.
Possibility 2 - the abilities work like this by default -result of their individual codes being executed in this particular interaction- it was never tested or corrected for cowardice vs concentration, at least for the case of trapped goblin. Then it is anybody's guess what should happen :)
Maybe you should find out what happens :) |
Alright. Im locking this thread. I ll post again if something comes up.
Thank you all. |
| closed by Yuvraz (2017-06-11 10:10:09) |
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