| Author | Defensive builds vs FD |
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Is there any hope?
I just saw a partner Tribal simply get crushed.
Assuming FD doesn't face further nerf, what's the way to beat FD using defensive builds like Tribal, TDE or any other? |
not much tribal can do. Its really helpless in the defense build against any DoF casters. Well at least bwiz is a bit low on meat so there is a small chance but against FD all you can do as a tribal is cry.. lol
And i don't think this situation can change if FD count is nerfed a little more. Even the FD shooters are inherently meaty, they lack a bit of damage like elves and barbs, but with the high numbers and armor debuffs, that is more than compensated. |
Nothing much I would say as there are designed to be anti for defence build similar to BW.
I think after all the balancing there will be a stage where game will become like rock-paper-scissor with each build has a counter build. |
| Maybe full offense with magic resistance? Just saying. |
Maybe full offense with magic resistance? Just saying.
Already tribals are low on defence. With max offense and no defence, the troops are gonna become 1 hit ko |
| max offense with retribution and innate swiftness build is not as bad as you think :) give it a try. |
| You will lose to everything else if you go offence, just hope you don't face DOF :( |
for siddi1111:
yeah, that's my point, since tribals are low on defence, you can go with full might and one shot your opponent, while making the armor melting talent less efficient |
Is there any hope?
Practice clicking the "Join" button. Most important skill right there. |
| I’d say take max luck and initiative with max offense. You need to take them out before they take you out just like barbs. Except now every move you make is critical as once the hero casts Armor breaker your troops are as good as dead. So it’s those first couple of moves which decide your game for you. Take thief amulet for higher luck and morale. Take innate swiftness to reach the enemy like VV said. Kill early. |
Guys, he is talking about defensive builds if you read the title. In CG you won't know what you are facing and defensive build for tribal is standard there, knowing this what you guys think a tribal should do? :)
That's it. |
| Do as clearly most other tribals have done and switch faction ;) |
Do as clearly most other tribals have done and switch faction ;)
sad to actually see that there is no way that a faction can actually fight another right now.
Till date there has always been some strategy at play. But now we rely on nerfing only |
| Every faction have weaknesess. |
| Weaknesses yes but it can win if correct talents, build and parameters. Here there is no way unless fd player is dumb and uses his sp and knowledge to do holy spells on his troops |
| Im not so sure about that. If FD uses pyromancer he risks being rushed. He takes risk aswell. As they reduced army some what now can rush better than when release. |
And i don't think this situation can change if FD count is nerfed a little more. Even the FD shooters are inherently meaty, they lack a bit of damage like elves and barbs, but with the high numbers and armor debuffs, that is more than compensated.
I'm afraid they broke it? :(
I'm curious what is this offense tribal build being spoken of. Any examples?
As a darkness mage, I found that a single weakness on FD troops makes them very weak, and unable to kill you despite the DoF. Of course, that's only as a specific subset of defense builds. |
Offense tribal has priorities only on Max attack and forget defense. It's kill or be killed kind of setup with talents towards extreme offense, battle fury, cold blade and retribution. Stats are all spent on increasing attack and you got to go all out attack from the first move otherwise enemy shooters can take you out.
This build is normally avoided i believe in the higher levels |
| When the factions are out of balance like this, and in this case severly out of balance, then this game is broken. For next dwarf update may the admin even give it a dozen tier 7 creatures. |
| 1 build should never be able to beat all other builds. Never. |
