| Author | Arts Returned to Military Clan if a player logs off |
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+ 1 to rohanarora
I think the big problem is during events and tournaments when majority of the clan are trying to share between only a few rings of cold and flame daggers and arts like that , that’s why I kinda agree with grif when you have 200 people playing an event and they have to share between 20 of each arts some people are going to struggle |
Idea from elven is good but there are reasons why this has not been implemented. It is good when event is going on and arets are in big demand. If someone who needs an art urgently and sees that someone is holding that art for hours and not using it or even going offline...he gets pissed off and he is roght to feels so. I also understand that you rent arts for defense one hour in advance. I understand but there are other solutions for that too.
It's not about big clans vs. Smaller clans. Different situations and needs. In a big clan competing for every point in event pressure is bigger. That is the difference. Smaller clans no pressure if one or two points are missing and many doesn't even notice if an art is missing from depo.
Different needs. If idea is implemented some would be happy and some not.
I hope you get my point. In AK in general holding to an art while going offline is not allowed. That is all.
No insults intended from my side. I support all three big .com clans. I hope you all become top 10 one day! Good luck! I mean it. |
Agree with Rohanarora.
for elven_blade:
-1 to the suggestion.
There is a time rental for arts already. People can logout for various reasons (loss battle, switch to multi, take a break, network connection failure, etc...). I don't think it's fair to cut the lease for those reasons.
No negative feedbacks are to be posted for this thread please.
You have no right to ask that. I am entitled to an opinion, since if this suggestion will be implemented, it will affect me to. You have no right to deny my point of view, or anyone else's in the game (even those not in MC's). |
Grif, it is not selfish as we organise defence lines well in advance of enlist. Sure your clan may be too big to so this..
Rental time limit per combat could be alterable just like max combat rent |
Or how about offering such options as optional? If a clan finds it necessary to implement such, why can't they just have a box that they can tick saying "Return artifacts if player logs out or goes offline". Or if we go with the idea that certain roles in a clan can forcefully return arts, then why not give the choice of what roles are allowed to do it to the clan leader?
So far the only problem discussed is clans having different needs/rules, then why not just give the option to the leaders instead of forcing it upon every clan. |
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+1
for Warlock naviron:
Problem with this is if rent art for 10 battles and then log out for 2 hours is that someone else could rent that art in meantime and do his thing. Event or not. Whats the reason to rent art for 10 battles then log out afrer 1 battle, come back after hour or 2, or more. Is it that hard to rerent again?
That 1 battle is just example. point is holding on to art that someone else might need. |
for latviesu lords:
I think this is a clan management issue. Allow storekeeper to set max number of combats and time limit allowed per rental.
Busy clans will pick 1-2 combats/1-2 hours. If anyone very active needs more, can rent again (takes 3 seconds, small risk someone else pick art during those 3 seconds).
Laid back clans without facilities can set limit to 10 combats/24 hours per art rental, no problem.
I just think using log off as trigger across the board penalizes players/clans that shouldn’t be penalized. |
Very very busy clans should increase depository and acquire more arts to alleviate the pressure on competing rentals.
In the end that’s why they are taking all that gold from facilities and stealing dozens of taxes... :D |
I just think using log off as trigger across the board penalizes players/clans that shouldn’t be penalized.
I was supporting this idea in general. But there is sure to be modifications |
Very very busy clans should increase depository and acquire more arts to alleviate the pressure on competing rentals.
Currently AK depo holds 29 flame daggers, about the same (or more) SOC, tons of ROC and ROS, etc....
Depo size 390. If we had 100 flame daggers they would all be rented during big and demanding event. It's just not possible to have all this.
In the end it's all about discipline. Now more than ever there is a strict selection in top clans. Those who obey rules (return arts if going offline), do work for clan etc. can stay in clan. Others will have to go elsewhere. Simple. Competition between top5, top 10 clans is and will be even more crazy. Community, past acheivement and stuff like that count for nothing at the top. Only results. It's sad but it is what it is. We all have seen examples when a player with level 58 out of 60 done is kicked out at top 3 clans. Sure, looks nasty but other 199 players got top 1 prize because of that (he was replaced with someone who did 60 levels. Ugly? Yes if you are the one kicked. Not if you are one of 199 who did 60.
So i really agree with idea of automatic return if offline or time limited rent IF it's is an option for clan managment (storekeeper) to enable or disable when they see if it is necessary or not.Elven blade idea is right but with some correction. Only thing that is missing is: this post should be posted on .ru forum and not here. Maxim should see it and he doesn't even know if this forum exist i think, probably he forgot. |
So far the only problem discussed is clans having different needs/rules, then why not just give the option to the leaders instead of forcing it upon every clan.
+1, the ideal scenario.
It's just not possible to have all this.
Agree, it is unreasonable to expect any clan to expand depo endlessly and have full set for 180 players on standby, in the event of them just zombie-ing out while holding them.
So i really agree with idea of automatic return if offline or time limited rent IF it's is an option for clan managment (storekeeper) to enable or disable when they see if it is necessary or not.Elven blade idea is right but with some correction.
+1
this post should be posted on .ru forum and not here.
+1
Maxim should see it and he doesn't even know if this forum exist i think, probably he forgot.
+1, since 2008 xD |
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in favor.
No reason why offline player should retain arts that may be wanted by his/her clanmates. If you are just going for a little bit, you can always re-rent assuming nobody else wanted it. Also i would propose significantly cutting down the duration of lease for multi-battle rents.
Might be a bit inconvenient at times, but these changes will ensure that more players who need arts from depo can access it. |
| Yeah its just as bad to rent a cg set for 5 battles and keep it for 10 hours, whether you are online or not, lease term per combat should be changeable |
Can someone get this posted in the Russian forums to please who has a say there.
Thanks in advance. |
This is the russian thread i have created with reference of the .com link also
https://www.heroeswm.ru/forum_messages.php?tid=2794504 |
My piece of mind:
Shop arts have rent time 6 months. There should be an option for clan renting also to implement renting time ( hours, days, weeks ), indefinite rent creates block for others in case there is not a lot of items of certain type in MC.
Dunno if implemented, also when character leaves clan, all rented items should be instantly removed from his inventory. |
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