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Any rule for fair market use?



AuthorAny rule for fair market use?
So event started, was wanting to make a few extra coins. Was selling mithril long swords at 2-3k profit.
Then a guy came to become my competitor. No problem, was winning most of the pots share and making a buck.
Then he started to sell without profit, and afterwards he tasked one of his friends (which only is online when he’s, has similar victory score, guilds development, and overall suspiciously seems to be the same person, but whatever)
His “friend “ is posting every day 3 art stock without profit, just to force me to go away.
The thing is, he doesn’t own any mithril sword share, so he ain’t making any gain.

So did I. Tried to sell gladius of presage, same profit and selling ratio, but there was a guy with , 7 shares of this sword and oh boy was he active and aggressive, 16LG folks. I immediately dropped there cuz I saw no future for me.
Now I was trying to sell either composite bow or mithril dagger, but the very sameguy is covering any offer below his friend or maybe another alt account infringement of rules. Either way I can’t sell anything, because he effectively has 18 market slots. 6 his, 6 from his so called friend, and 6 from his friend alt.

So I should just sit and watch?
Just got a reply from the 16LG guy. Honestly, it really seems they’re different people.
He replied “we are market partners for abou 4 years, we help each other “
Nothing to do except to move on.

However I am 99% sure that the first person is the same guy, but his “friend “ did lease and is inside a military clan, which is against the rules. But anyway I am quite annoyed by how easily the market can be exploited. Some rules for fair use please!
I have spent better part of 2 years trying to hustle in the market. I really liked RPing as a merchant but had to stop because of always getting beaten by script users immediately buying bargain lots. Without a doubt this is not a fair market.
You should report any multi or alt account as trading is not allowed for an alt and unsigned multis can be blocked too.
You should report any multi or alt account as trading is not allowed for an alt and unsigned multis can be blocked too.

Wait, alts cannot sell common ordinary artifacts in the market?
Well, exactly, following the rules the appropriate punishment would be block, the thing is, the game is kinda dying... blocking old players ain’t the way to go. We need more people, not getting ride off the ones who plays.
The correct punishment should be a monetary fine, to incentivize good behavior practices and avoid shameless control.

The player in question was offline since 2:00 or so till 18:00 server time.
Now both accounts were logged in at same time, magically. Winning score percentage is way too similar, laziness of elements storage, guild gp ratio and the same overall guild development choices and spread ratio, same strategy in leader guild, about same LG when taking in account CL difference, Same event dedication and fondness. Both are traders, etc.
Everything is too similar.

If I report, either nothing will happen, because it’s a high level account, from a donator old player.
Or he would get that account blocked, which I also don’t want to happen.

2 days ago I was making 2-3k sale, now I’ve to sit and watch someone block any profit from Mithril longsword.

If there was a rule that prevented this kind of stupidity, we could turn a blind eye and just give a monetary fine, instead of outright blocking.
There are just few differences between accounts, which actually makes him looks more guilty.

The main holds many shares, the alt has only the gifted share from empire.
The main only has elements, the alt has steel and resources alike, which suggests he uses his alt money to provide resources in the facility he controls when needed. That’s pretty much what a person would do if it was his alt. Anyhow.

Still, I’d prefer the introduction of new rules. Thing is, while I might not want to see someone blocked, that doesn’t mean I’ll keep taking s*** I am free to drop whatever I like.
His main account will not be blocked, only alt which has traded illegaly.
Yeah but, his alt is cL 17, has DU with multiple castles.
He ain’t a bright person, and I say that with reason.
I was winning most pots, but the infighting between us was making we both to lose money.
I offered him a clean pass from 6:00 till 12:00 server time, without any opposition from me, because this time period would be around 0:00 - 6:00 in my country.

So for a person who was selling nothing a clean widow to sell at 3k profit is a very good deal.
He didn’t bother to reply. Instead this account appeared out of nowhere.
This account wasn’t selling mithril swords, in fact it wasn’t selling for a long time, it doesn’t have mithril sword share, and he was selling 3stocks of 3 at 0 profit initially, and still repeating every day. What is the motivation for this?
My point is, he ain’t smart nor reasonable.
Any person without these traits that is a heavy donator, mostly likely has no other expenses social or any cost of living.
When you take a person like this, and block his alt, it’s very likely he’ll quit the game with his main.
I am not sure if alts aren’t allowed to sell ordinary stuff, the only clear violation is joining a MC with the alt. Being blocked for that is too much IMO.

Gonna pm the names, but won’t report.
Well, I’ve reported. Still nothing is going to happen, because he’s a big donor.
He entered 3 times today, played less than 2 hours, and yet posted 2 stocks of 3 at no profit, then another 2 stocks of 3 at no profit again, when there’s literally no one posting Mithril swords.

Kind feeling I’ve wasted my money on this last donation. Kinda shitty that there won’t be any consequence.
Always at 3D duration , for intentional item block.
Well, it wasn’t me who violated any rule. And while I think people leaving this game is bad, one has to ask about this kind of bs, would make how many want to abandon the game instead. I know that I am not enjoying. And he ain’t the only donor neither.

Anyhow, if any kind soul would be generous enough, to copy paste and translate it to the Russian version.
Meant this: https://www.lordswm.com/forum_messages.php?tid=2837401
closed by Angel of Death (2021-05-15 22:33:30)
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