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for kchong:
i dont wait for examples lol. i am working 6 12s atm so when i get home i barely have time to play and this is a leg event, which i hate the most, so motivation is lacking to play right when i get home.

last ffa event i was only player to clear 100 and like 100+ people were stuck on it until i shared my battle just to stop getting spam messages about it.
its ok bud i know you live at home with mommy and dont have to worry about a job or bills but some of us do :)
slayer is the last person I would accuse of this lmao
Anyone know why my dude has got worse rather than better in one stat

Here he has ignore defence 50% at battle 76
https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?lt=-1&warid=1454619521&show=N08IwtIb

But here in battle 79 he has only ignore 3%?
https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?warid=1454622677&show=N0Y90YNw

To be fair he should not probably have jumped to 50% after one battle originally, so perhaps a bug fix, but not sure
just got implosion spell, go into hypnosis wave and they make my hero 1 shot my units with implosion. XD oops
Victories / Combats: 100 / 113
Points: 499
Individual place: ~3,649

Got:
gold: 85,640
LG points: 108.4
armaments: 123
diamonds: 3
parts of Fear amulet: 15
parts of Fear boots: 10
parts of Fear cloak: 10
stacks of LG: 8
parts of stacks of LG: 448

All on lesser mode.
That is your opinion, I have a different POV
https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?warid=1454662497&show=NaKHpGUv

i will have to remember these guys make the hypnosis units unable to cast. pretty OP
Level 100 clear

https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?warid=1454751379&show_for_all=ND6dIsTQ

SHARE THIS BATLTE EVERYWHERE.

Make sure all com server player benefit and prevent Russian from cheating
Victories / Combats: 100 / 118
Points: 982
Individual place: ~183

Could have easily gotten better result but lost many battles at level 10-20 because of lazy to pick troops.

Forgot new rules since back to game.

Regardless we move forward
for Lord MilesTeg:
Thoughts anyone or am a just whinging now?

What is your hero build?
I would try with pikeman + lizards + rest on valkyries (Ai favorite so they will get decay first)
First time completing an event. Leave a mark here for record :)

Victories / Combats: 100 / 123
Points: 977
Individual place: ~509

Got:
gold: 166,700
LG points: 108.2
armaments: 123
diamonds: 3
parts of Fear amulet: 15
parts of Fear boots: 10
parts of Fear cloak: 10
stacks of LG: 8
parts of stacks of LG: 448
I have mixed feelings about this event.

On one level I like the variation and the options of how to beat battles, this provides some interesting thinking.

The flip side is this means that to be competitive one must frequently copy builds etc, something I do not particularly like doing.

I have learned a few things of which I shall share.

Firstly ini should be above 11(mine was 10.8) so as to give better than 50:50 odds of moving before other ini 11 troops

Secondly do not mix your build like I did.

I started off with a shooter build, then in a battle I used wardens and saw the bless and thought this is useful. Over time it put me in a mix So has something which had decent shooting, but if this was used I did not use my spells, if however I cast straight away against some enemies the difficulty was high as judged as a shooter for difficulty but without the damage output to match.

This meant that(like similar events) there is a demonstrably superior build for the hero, which is frustrating if you don't have it.

Personally I think it would be nice if there was only 1 or 2 directions for hero build. Yes it reduces the theoretical variation, though in practice that extra variation mostly just causes imbalance.
for Lord MilesTeg:
In hindsight, I think to start the pet with 35+ defense and 12+ ini should be optimal with caster builds considering how fast the casting ability grow in this event
Personally I think it would be nice if there was only 1 or 2 directions for hero build.

I like the current setting of allowing multiple development options. Mine was a shooter and I didn't feel that there were any impossible levels in this event. Clearly, others found the magic build was good too. In the past LeG events, there was often a single development option that turned out to be better than the other ones.

Here is my final shooter.

https://www.lordswm.com/army_info.php?name=officer&evcrc=5845230.bf5fe6
I went on melee path, which required on latest levels moon priestess and other beneficial units as a must; i've got to 99% ignore def, but i would like for next event a strike and return ability :)
Ended few levels below kchong.

Lat combat:
https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?lt=-1&warid=1454830662&show=N17DAinh
ah yes the turn 1 morale with 150 merc archers on hero fight. i love it
I think much of my feeling is my fault from ending up with a fusion of hero skills and not sticking with one pure path (or perhaps from doing holy at all).

This is my hero
https://www.lordswm.com/army_info.php?name=officer&evcrc=4366341.6bd04d

which loses out compared to yours on ini, hp, def, attack and the % of ignore defence, but has mass holy for the majority (excepting evasion which for a shooter based army would have perhaps have been the most useful)

I certainly felt some battles were hard to a level of either being unbeatable with the troops I had available or requiring a lot of luck to pull something off.

I do not doubt for a second that their would have been better build ideas etc that what I had, but if I take this one for example (94) I could only win it on easy

https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?lt=-1&warid=1454918477&show=NOeS3gBT

The hard had just less than double this amount of troops
https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?warid=3000000393868&show_enemy=NILI_6Dt

If I compare this difficulty to one of the larger comparable ones I could find on daily
Which is this
https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?lt=-1&warid=1454589249&show=NEwbAVe3

My hero can do less than half the damage per turn compared to his chaos caster, yet I have
151 renegade thugs to his 113 (and both of his are blockable on the front row)
86 shadow thieves to his 64
35 renegade scouts to his 10
0 Renegade magicians to his 26

So what point am I trying to make?

I guess it is the frustration that an event where I enjoyed the thinking behind, the fact that I did not wait to find the best build before I got going, and where I did not look around and copy other people particularly, means that it will have cost me more and got a lower reward at the end. This then takes away some of the satisfaction from the fights themselves.

It is valid that I am viewing this based upon the assumption that I am not stupid and lost more battles in no small part from having proportionately more difficult enemies in key places than I think I should.

I am open to the possibility that I made very poor choices in army selection and use (I already know I chose poorly in hero building). I lay a challenge therefore for anyone to suggest a viable build and strategy for this battle (with obviously only the troops I have available) and I will try it out.

If I win, you can all call me stupid
If I lose, I will allow myself to feel less bad about whinging!
for Lord MilesTeg:
yea it is only hard due to you not focusing your hero in one direction, pure shooter and you can use other units to buff/debuff or just go pure holy for resurection spell to fully raise a stack of like 17 valkeries. holy is just bad since it requires time to setup compared to chaos that just deals damage and/or shooter.

i especially like chaos since it just boils down to protect/keep hero alive so i can use punishers to amplify damage and sun priestesses to resurect hero if i need it in certain battles

https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?warid=1455200346&show=NHAHI3lP
for bp99:
First time completing an event. Leave a mark here for record :)

Congratulations! The feeling is usually nice and is a nice achievement.
for slayerofall:
Thanks for that, yeah chaos (or any pure build) is just plain stronger. Lesson learned!

It is interesting how on a direct comparison, your setup for 85 involved keeping your hero alive to do the damage, whereas for me I had to just keep him alive for long enough for the troops to do the damage. Relying on a bit of luck in how nicely they arranged themselves and a troop which could basically ignore magic and ranged damage and got it to do the dirty work (AKA diamond golem) while my hero mostly got pummelled to protect the troops. One of the few times antimagic has felt good :)

https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?lt=-1&warid=1454812830&show=Nh_moj9t
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