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from readme first to this forum:
https://www.lordswm.com/forum_messages.php?tid=1853328 |
This forum is not for discussion (as lcorndogl gently reminded us above) but you can use this thread to report all tournament battles you find fishy. Remember that TEMPORARY alliances are allowed; but if you have the impression the alliance is NOT temporary at all (eg. it starts from turn 1 and ends only when the two players are the only left!) or similar cases (player deliberately not finishing off an helpless opponent but trying to wipe another so the weak one can gain a rank, etc.), please post them here.
Be sure to mention all required details each time:
- battle link, (obviously)
- suspected player names and link to their character page.
- description of why you think it's a staged combat.
It will save Keepers a lot of time. ^_^ |
https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?warid=485057871
Rado+Force team up on me for the virtually the entire battle 2v1. I attacked 3 guys (Force+Kallista+Rado) of the 6. Rado attacked 2 guys (Modi 1x and me the rest of fight) instead of attacking the Knight that was destroying him. By doing so, he ensured that force would overwhelm me, and take a top spot in the fight.
https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?warid=485035455
Laurelin and BojioD91 teamed up for the entire fight. Just look at this one...it is so obvious, it is sickening. An explanation isn't even needed to see how these guys pushed each other. Pay particular attention to how the fight ended. |
https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?warid=485057871
Rado+Force team up on me for the virtually the entire battle 2v1. I attacked 3 guys (Force+Kallista+Rado) of the 6. Rado attacked 2 guys (Modi 1x and me the rest of fight) instead of attacking the Knight that was destroying him. By doing so, he ensured that force would overwhelm me, and take a top spot in the fight.
you must be joking, right?
Your first move attack me - 1 enemy for you, second you attack magic DE - 2 enemies for you, your third move attack barb, third enemy for you. Well, if you fight someome you expect them to fight back, do not you? |
Case #001:
https://www.lordswm.com/pl_info.php?id=4501219
jogaman's log..
After the first combat, they still play each other a lot. That may prove their close relation.. Of course, they didn't have obvious alliance, but they never attacked each other directly.. And in most cases they always come out on top... Which leads to more suspicion they are friends and are helping each other in battles! |
typo, jogamen of course.
Another combat going on between them.. https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?warid=485095122 |
All combats looks alike... jogamen and Vieen never go head on head, which means they are passively helping each other.
And the results are staggering...
jogamen Vieen
1st 2nd https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?warid=485095122
2nd 1st https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?warid=485082015
1st 2nd https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?warid=485080140
1st 2nd https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?warid=485056633
And then the combat I was in.. jogamen came 1st and Vieen 3rd.
Too much to be coincidence?! |
#25
The Knight was destroying Rado...but instead of defending HIMSELF from the Knight's non-stop attacks, he chose to help YOU kill me :)
Plain and simple, such actions are nothing short of pushing via martyr style. No logical player would do such a thing--ie if there was no tournament, this would not of happened this way. |
forget the EW, they are even DARE to post on public to draw attention of all EW members to work together on tour to kill other; not even in clan sub forum page but on GGF.
the thread was locked and deleted. but i m sure they start another in clan mail or other way. it was funny that they start the complaints but now they did the same thing LOL
seriously, i would say it is good that no diamond award in this tour. else, i wonder is the winner deserve it? |
30 Only official EW announcement on this tourny is here. https://www.lordswm.com/forum_messages.php?tid=1870056
Feel free to delete any other threads and give their Autors Forum block for few days/months. They are work of individual clan members and as such they dont represent will of EW leadership.
I am sure u will undestand since also cant guarantee how individual members of clans ur member of behave.
Have a nice day |
Yes, it will be very hard for admin to determine which battles are staged.
I will be very hard for clan leader to punish those unsportsmanship as well.
So the best way for players who want to enjoy the fun from the tournament,
1st, stay away from them. Check if they are online with full art. If yes,
don't waste your time and arts.
2nd, attack and wipe those cheaters out first. They are easily identified
with stats and they will always attack the player between them. Any other
player not in this cheater group should help this victim because if you
don't you will be the next victim. |
The Knight was destroying Rado...but instead of defending HIMSELF from the Knight's non-stop attacks, he chose to help YOU kill me :)
correct, you made him an enemy, so he decides backstab you. In order to last longer he chose an easy target...
Numerous alliances are built and withdrown during fights like that, it's all about scoring. In case things go bad - backstabing the weakest for higher ranking is a solution, clearly not very polite or even considered rude :)
It might not be right for someone, but this is how it works in battles like this and certainly should. |
https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?warid=485113500
Don't know whether this is allowed or not, but I found it very frustrating that three DEs did not attack each other at all until they took down my army up to about 2 gargoyles. The other two players were also taken out while keeping the attacks to each other to a minimum.
From 'About the game' section on Blindfold tournaments:
"If a player does not take offensive actions continuously, the troops begin to act independently. In order to reduce the probability of troops' waywardness or to regain control over independent ones, it is necessary to undertake military actions regarding an enemy."
How does this work? Why did the DEs not suffer from rebellion amongst their troops while remaining 'passive' for such long periods of time (some of their stacks did not attack anything until at least 3 players were gone). Do I not understand the description correctly?
Funny fact: description also mentions that the battle style is supposed to be "every one for oneself". In any case this game was then not in accordance with the intended gameplay at all (and very annoying to have to endure I might add at risk of getting banned). |
#33
Wrong..I was no easy enemy..He died first--by a LOT because he is magic DE (no def). He had NO CHANCE of killing me, even with your help, before he'd die to the knight's full attack.
Further, saying he attacked the weakest player is an extremely poor argument...because the weakest player against his magic would of been the Knight--or you.
No logic. A full push...I can't believe that you are even trying to argue this moot point. You are guilty it would seem from your insecurity about it. |
You are guilty it would seem from your insecurity about it.
Yeah right, judge me please...why would I have to prove anything at all? What I'm saying is attacking 3 different players in a match is a VERY bad idea and you just expirienced yourself this hardship. You are just being suspicious to everyone who is in the same clan and this kind of tourney would make frustrate people at fights with or without clans believe me... |
All combats looks alike... jogamen and Vieen never go head on head, which means they are passively helping each other.
And the results are staggering...
jogamen Vieen
1st 2nd https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?warid=485095122
2nd 1st https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?warid=485082015
1st 2nd https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?warid=485080140
1st 2nd https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?warid=485056633
And then the combat I was in.. jogamen came 1st and Vieen 3rd.
Too much to be coincidence?!
jogamen 1st, Vieen 2nd https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?warid=485099436 |
i guess it's nothing wrong if 2 or 3 players team up to defeat someone else... |
I have seen so many players will unite in tournament
Mostly same faction persons will unite:)
I never seen two necro and elf will attaking each other |
https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?lt=-1&warid=17101685
Teaming up is ok. No problem with that. EW players wants to play against one other player, its ok.
But at the end of battle, they block the guardians in the left corner. Guardians cant reach the hydra to kill them. The wizard and the necro cover the hydras. The knight has no chance to get the third place in this battle. This is more than unfair... |