| Author | The No-Arti thread |
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Many games are created in the purpose of playing without arti. This has numerous reasons, e.g.
- Spare some money
- Better chances for fresh players on same level
- Fun / Challenge
I know a lot-of players like "Ssashaa" who specially wait for such games being created and joining them with full arti set. This makes an easy win for them - a 100% win. They excuse by any means "Sry did not read that" or "I speak no english".
What you think?
I think we need a new system extension, which allows only players without any artifacts to join battles, which are created that way. A simple checkbox while creating a game would be enough, as its very common to play no-arti games. |
| Such players as "Ssashaa" will be always, and that they full-art have dressed that fact does not do their abrupt, on ru-server I such won repeatedly, so a brain for gold you will not buy |
| As much as I like your idea, I'm afraid there's gonna be another solution to this problem - no "artless" battles =( |
With the AP-system there's even possible to add a function to 'check' for certain amount of APs.
For instance you would be able to create a battle between 5-15 APs. (Aome arts, but not alot)
I'm not in favor of either way, I'm just saying it's possible. |
| Just put such players on a (personal) blacklist, so nobody will help them or join fights with them.. |
| 5. Yeah, but these cunning little players register last, while others are already stuck. And even if they registered earlier they can't be kicked out, too bad for the guy setting up the battle! |
It's a constant risk in group battles. That, and afk. And players eliminating elves early.
That's why I only duel now. |
6. Well you can also make a deal..
The teammates of the player with full arts just don't respond and by doing so let the only one lose.
But you need some cooperation from the others for that too. |
| They'll lose 2 luck for a whole hour for that. Hardly fair for them |
Halbarus we together fight VS this "Ssasha"=) and your idea very good! byt admins don*t do it=((
but such battles spoil the mood and reduce the desire to play. so that note, administration!!! |
I think we need a new system extension, which allows only players without any artifacts to join battles, which are created that way. A simple checkbox while creating a game would be enough, as its very common to play no-arti games. If admin dont have plan to use option like paypal (RL money for this game) maybe that idea can be good suggestion.. :)
but if admin have plan to give option for real money, forget that idea.. :) |
8. The teammates of the player with full arts just don't respond and by doing so let the only one lose.
Ridiculous idea, because then the person with arts reports their team-m8 as deliberate looser playing for the other side and gets him suspended or worse.
Personally, I feel that arts are there to be used if the player wants.
If you don't want to use arts, then that's fine.
But to create battles stating "no arts" in the Comments section of the battle info is just hopeful imo.
There's no way to stop people using arts in battles, just the same as there's no way to restrict opponents to specific classes only.
Until the devs decide to put such options into battle configuration settings, you're going to have to live with it. |
| Rayva - such people, as you or Ssashaa spoil all game. you can*t fight honestly. and say to players - "i can*t speek english" or "you very strong you have talent of damedge and gate more army". you spoil all game. |
13.
You're moaning at me because in comments you had "No Arts"
Yet your skills give you +10% melee damage & +15% water damage.
Vast majority of your creatures are melee, and can gate a load more.
I told you I had read your comment, and after seeing your skills I ignored it and joined the battle.
It turned out 1v1 because nobody else wanted to join against you, which is why I waited until the last few seconds to join.
If you want to say "No Arts" in comments, then that's fine, but there's no rule to say I have to only join if I have no arts.
If you hadn't gone for an easy win with your +25% damage, I might have thoguht differently.
You're just upset because your plan for an easy win backfired.
To say I ruin the game is complete rubbish.
Go back over my battle history, I'll be waiting for your apology. |
| this is not the argument. you have luck and special talent of elf. i write without arts. and you wear all arts to defeat me. it is not honestly fight. is dishonest and cowardly |
It's not an argument atall.
It's your point of view and my point of view.
Fact remains, just because you write "No Arts" in description doesn't mean people with arts won't join.
You don't like it, that's fine.
You want to moan about it and call people cowardly and ruining the game, that's fine too.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
Personally, I don't care what you say, I've stated my reasons even though I didn't have to. If the situation rose again, I would do the same. |
The solution right now is don't create "no arts" group battles. It doesn't even cost you that much money. For reference, at the time I clicked on you, you have:
18,208 Gold, 26 Wood+Ore, 28 Larger Resources
Stop being whiny and spend some money on artifacts. With their sell price they aren't even that expensive per fight. |
| Pyronoc - i know all, but i need money for other things. and this things have more big cost... |
you and all players in battle gain twice more exp and points to racial ability if all wearing arts. Including difference between new art cost and broken art to sell - 1 battle in full art will cost you 200-500 gold. Not so much, but all 6 players gain twice more from battle.
for example - 2 battles (sorry, cant find them now):
1-st: all plaers in art. winners gain 2300, 1700 and 1600 exp
2-nd: without arts. Winners gain 1300, 600 and 500 exp.
Points of racial ability - the same.
And now, worth it some money or not? |
| This fights were on lvl 5. |
